He's beyond what is considered the real world, so is not subject to our analytic methods. Therefore I cannot say I know one way or another.
I am not "hung up on proving how the universe came to be", that is not relevant to the threat which was evolution. Its entirely possible that as others have suggested that he is at the start. I don't know. Origins of the universe have little to do with the theory of evolution. That's an entirely different field of study. In the case of theism, I am essentially ignorant. In a way we all are. I lean towards the idea of the blind watchmaker ideas of Thomas Jefferson. But again its a matter of faith, and covers a topic that is beyond science. Now to throw in the monkey wrench. A couple of years ago there was a journal article that found that religious epiphany was very similar to left temporal lobe epileptic seizures, in terms of EEG. However that only partially explains the mechanism, not the source. larry -- Larry C. Lyons ColdFusion/Web Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer EBStor.com 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 tel: (703) 393-7930 fax: (703) 393-2659 Web: http://www.ebstor.com http://www.pacel.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. -- > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:53 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Evolution and Education > > > The first is simpler -- why should G-d be bound by the laws > of the universe > when no universe yet exists? > > Again, Larry, your logic rests on the supposition that G-d is not the > infinite and timeless creator. If you believed in G-d in that > way, you > wouldn't be so hung up on proving how the universe came to be. > > Judith > > >First off, use Occam's Razor. In other words what is the > more simpler of > >mechanisms, a mechanism that violates most if not all laws > of the universe - > >ie, a big guy with a white beard that waves his hands and > poof - everything, > >or a mechanism that consists of simple gradual changes > punctuated by rapid > >changes on the fringes of the population distributions? > > > >larry > > > >-- > >Larry C. Lyons > >ColdFusion/Web Developer > >Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > >EBStor.com > >8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > >Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > >tel: (703) 393-7930 > >fax: (703) 393-2659 > >Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > http://www.pacel.com > >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > >-- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:17 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Evolution and Education > > > > > > > > > Where's the scientific evidence that God isn't the author of the > > > evolutionary process? > > > > > > H. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:14 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Evolution and Education > > > > > > > > > Its still creationism. Just the wolf wearing another sheepskin. > > > > > > I repeat where is the scientific evidence for it? > > > > > > larry > > > > > > -- > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > EBStor.com > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > http://www.pacel.com > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > -- > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:09 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: RE: Evolution and Education > > > > > > > > > > > > Just to clarify, the article in question isn't creationists > > > > (in the strict > > > > sense of the word) vs. evolutionists, it's supporters of > > > > intelligent design > > > > vs. no-creator evolutionists. A much finer parsing of > > > > theories than strict > > > > creationism against any form of evolution. > > > > > > > > H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:52 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Evolution and Education > > > > > > > > > > > > You could argue that view, but strict creationists would > > > > argue that the > > > > universe sprang from nothingness to completion in only 6 > > > > days. Rationaly, > > > > it makes no sense, but it's what some people believe. > > > > > > > > I would like to find someone with these beliefs and ask them > > > > to explain > > > > dinosaurs and all of the other scientific evidence that > > > > supports evolution. > > > > Maybe they have such explanations .. *shrug* > > > > > > > > Todd > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Rick Eidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:48 AM > > > > Subject: RE: Evolution and Education > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we look at the creation in versions just like a > > > > programmer would? > > > > > You build an application V1.0 Then you take away and add to > > > > it to create > > > > > V1.2 and so on. > > > > > > > > > > Couldn't evolution just be Gods Versions of man? If so then > > > > evolution and > > > > > Creation could be the same. > > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
