>Again you keep thinking I am all for this and I am not and I dont fucking know 
>any other way to tell you that and have you actually understand it.

Then perhaps the next time the topic comes up you should not reply the way you 
did originally which essentially was "if you have furniture you are worried 
about and your cat is still a kitten, go for it". This is not the statement of 
someone that thinks the procedure should *only* be done if the person is going 
to get rid of the cat should they not be able to prevent scratching, that is 
practically encouraging someone to do it. I don't disagree with your statement 
that *if* someone is planning to have it done, younger is better (although 
still not without risk)....I just personally would rather put my efforts 
towards educating someone in all the other ways to prevent scratching problems, 
and that declawing is not an appropriate solution to such issues, than just 
saying, well they'll do it anyway, so why bother trying to convince them 
otherwise. Many people *would* think twice about doing it if given all the 
information, but that very often does not happen, and it's just done as a 
matter of routine. As Helen Keller said, there are few evils worse in this 
world than apathy. 




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