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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:42 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Evolution and Education
> 
> 
> You keep talking about creationism. Where do you get it that 
> this debate is
> about teaching creationism in school.  You're setting up a 
> straw man, making
> it look like anybody who disagrees with you is advocating creationism.
> 
> The question is, should evolution be taught as a dogma or should it be
> taught as a theory with legitimate questions. You seem to 
> think it should be
> taught as a dogma since it should not be questioned.


No what I am saying if a model does not fit the criteria for a scientific
theory then it has no place in biology or science classes.

> 
> Since there are real, honest to God scientists, people with impeccable
> credentials, who question that dogma, why should it be taught 
> as dogma?  Is
> that intellectually honest?
> 
> I want scientific rigor in the classroom. Not dogma. Biology 
> class is about
> the nature of things; if you teach that all that has happened 
> is by random
> chance, then you are teaching only one world view, a world 
> view that may be
> flawed. You are providing the children with propaganda not 
> science, because
> science is about questioning and exploring and opening minds 
> to an array of
> ideas and possibilities.  It's not a straight jacket that 
> only the dogmas of
> the chosen few can be fit into.
> 
> As for the role of parents -- what about the children of 
> parents who don't
> give a damn? Or don't know any better? Is it fair to those 
> children that
> they only get the dogma and not the alternative views?
> 
> The public schools have an obligation to provide fair and 
> balanced views to
> all children and not advocate one dogma over another.
> 
To quote from the NCSE FAQ:

What about the rights of parents to have their beliefs taught to their
children? 

Nobody denies the right of parents to teach their beliefs at home, or to
have their children taught their beliefs in churches, summer camps, and so
on. But the situation in the schools is more complicated. Schools have to
teach children from a variety of religious and ethnic backgrounds, and
teachers accomplish this by using a curriculum that avoids promoting or
denying religious beliefs. 

Teachers must meet curriculum requirements designed to assure that children
learn what they will need to know. The schools couldn�t function at all if
they taught every belief of every parent. Some people believe that
Shakespeare didn�t write the plays he is known for, and have various
theories about who did write them. Some people believe that the earth is a
hollow ball, and others (including some creationists) believe that it is
flat. The schools do their best to teach the most accurate information
available. 


As I said before where is the scientific veracity of ID or Creationism. I am
still waiting for your answer. Lets have some demonstrable evidence not
dogma.

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