Why is it always tit for tat?  Do you have some kind of personal
investment in the Republican party?

Saying that it's not that bad, everything is relative, "clinton did it
too", seems sorta like a cop-out.  It's actually rather
counter-productive to getting the problems addressed.

I mean, is it bad, or not?

-- 
The joke of our time is the suicide of intention.
Theodor Adorno

On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:16 PM, Sam wrote:
> I think it's interesting you call yourself unbiased and independent
> yet you always attack the republicans and rarely the dems.
> This thread your entire argument is McCain is not a leader because he
> wasn't able to stop Obama and Dodd, You have nothing to say about
> Obama and Dodd? Don't you think that's a little odd?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Maureen wrote:
>> Real leadership would have pushed a "significant" bill through  even
>> in the face of opposition within the party. Real leadership would have
>> said that reform was critical and made public any attempts by either
>> side to thwart it.  Co-sponsorship of a bill takes no effort, and is
>> mostly a PR stunt, as bills do not need co-sponsors in order to be
>> introduced.  Getting the bill to the floor for a vote and showing up
>> to vote for it, that's leadership.
>>
>> Basically what happened to this bill was  a huge public show of
>> support from the White House,  including Snow trotting up the Hill to
>> testify, lots of rhetoric on both sides, and then it was shoved off to
>> a committee to die.  No real effort was even made by either side to
>> pass or defeat it, so all the claims now to be in support or
>> opposition is just so much sound and fury, signifying nothing.
>>
>> McCain cannot truthfully claim to be for regulation based on his
>> co-sponsorship of this bill.  This bill is moot and the perfect red
>> herring.
>>
>> All of the current noise about it is nothing more than a diversion to
>> prevent discussion of the bill that is at the heart of the banking
>> crisis,  the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which you can bet the McCain
>> campaign does not want discussed.
>>
>> BTW, I searched the congressional record for any committee action on
>> S.190 and found none beyond the summary I posted earlier.  I'll look
>> deeper when I have some free time.

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