On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm not sure I can agree with you on this one. Wright's rhetoric is a bit > more than just "those white people have been putting us black people down". > I think the words he used were "God damn America."
I've said as much and the right-wing folks have said far worse. There have been many times when I've been down right ashamed of my country. I've out and out said "I fucking hate my country" sometimes because of the pain and horror that we've been known to cause. Guantanamo Bay and Abu Grhaib are only two recent things that have made me say that. Does that mean that I am anti-American? Not at all. Quite the opposite in fact. I have a deep, abiding, steadfast notion of what I want my country to be. I want it to be a shining example and I get utterly disgusted at the the things that "America" do in the name of the people currently in charge. Is that my America? No, it's not. But it is the America that other people see. So I say, God Damn America! that America that the pissant powers of the government put out there trying to take action in my name in ways which I never would countenance. Wright and I may not have the same vision for what we want America to be. Same with Bill Ayers (though I suspect he and I might be closer). But there is no way in hell you get off with claiming they are anti-American. They are risking their lives and reputations daily by espousing a vision for America that doesn't run to the mainstream. They are the veritable definition of an American in that they work hard to make their vision of a perfect America come to fruition. I don't happen to agree with their methods in all cases, but they are nothing to be sneered at. Judah ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:276722 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
