I think you have a very poor understanding of Rev. Wright then. There are certainly opinions of his with which I disagree, but to paint him as steadfastly anti-White and angry at everyone outside his Black Church is to horribly mischaracterize the man and his service. I think you are battling with a straw man.
Judah On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is no sense of understanding between me and Wright and invoking the > Israel/Arab issue does not build a bridge of understanding. These are > totally different issues with totally different histories and totally > different politics. > > But that's besides the point. The general "Jews should understand" would > work if it was for advancement without hate. We don't understand when it's > "dem jews fault or Whitie's fault" We don't hate all Germans because of the > holocaust. We don't hate all Arabs for the attacks against Jews. We don't > hate all whites in America for the oppression we faced in the 1500's-1900's. > We hate those who hate us and those who want to kill us NOW. Wright hates > whites for what they did. What whites do now pales so much in comparison as > to not even be in the same category. > > Even the argument that I have a connection to Judaism which is the same as > Wrights connection to blacks is a false argument. I'm not advocating Jews > over anyone. I'm not blaming anyone for my or my peoples position in life. > I'm not angry at the world or even a general segment of it as Wright is > (whites in his case). So no, I don't understand his anger because he's > someone who should be building and helping, not hating and hurting. > > > > >> Rather I was trying to invoke a sense of understanding. I deplore the >> Us vs. Them mentality that permeates the Isreal/Palestine clash. But >> it is understandable. The people of Isreal have suffered at the hands >> of Palenstinians and their allies. Palestinians have suffered at the >> hands of Isreal and their allies. I don't necessarily agree with >> either of them because the situation is complicated and frustrated. >> None-the-less, I can understand the anger on both sides. >> >> That is what I was trying to invoke as a path of understanding. I >> think that Rev. Wright has righteous anger at the centuries of >> oppression that have been visited upon his people. He has current >> examples of transgressions being visited upon his people to this day. >> I don't agree with all the ways he reacts to those issues but it is >> wrong to deny those issues and I think it is unfair to deny his anger >> even if you disagree with his expression of it. >> >> My point is that people who have a keen understanding of oppression >> come about it in a variety of ways. Rev. Wright seems to have settled >> into a confrontational, us versus them, attitude. Obama, from what I >> have seen, has transcended that and developed a more inclusive way of >> approaching the subject and it is likely to yield more results. >> >> But we all have to start our growth and understanding somewhere. I >> think that Michael has a visceral connection with the plight of people >> he considers brothers worldwide, through his deep feelings for >> Judaism. The Rev. Wright has established a similar connection with a >> diverse group of people, but with a common bond, hence the notion of >> Black Liberation Theology. I think that the Rev. Wright is >> short-sighted and that his fear, anger and distrust has kept him from >> achieving his goals. So people like Barack Obama have taken their >> lessons from the old guard and moved beyond them, becoming more >> inclusive and trying to achieve a goal of equality and justice without >> the violent rhetoric of old. >> >> Fundamentally, I'd like to think that jewish folk could understand the >> anger that might come about from centuries of oppression and see that >> there are elders that you can admire while disagreeing with and move >> beyond them into a new way of understanding your relationship with the >> world. >> >> Judah >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:276812 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
