That's right, make me work for it. 

At 12:42 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>Mikey-
>tell 'em about which kinds of steak are ok, which not! (e.g. no Filet)
>-Ben
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:44 AM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
>> 
>> 
>> A Kosher rare steak might have some 'meat juice' in it but 
>> the blood has all been drained and the meat has been salted. 
>> If you ate a Kosher steak I'd expect it to taste very 
>> different than a non-Kosher one.
>> 
>> At 12:43 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>> >What about rare steak?
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
>> >Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:42 AM
>> >To: CF-Community
>> >Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
>> >
>> >No Jewish vampires either. 
>> >Yes, one can eat non-Kosher is their life depends on it but 
>> vampires are
>> >by definition not alive so their life can't depend on it. 
>> i.e. a vampire
>> >who's Jewish and religious has to starve.
>> >
>> >At 12:31 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>> >>Gee, somehow I knew the Masai weren't Jewish
>> >>;-)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:31 AM
>> >>> To: CF-Community
>> >>> Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> At 12:19 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>> >>> >thanks, not eating pork is always something i've wondered about.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >whats the exact religious reason?
>> >>> Laws of ritual purity when dealing with what you eat. Land 
>> >>> animals have to have split hooves and chew their cud. Sea 
>> >>> animals have to have fins and scales. Birds of prey 
>> >>> (depending on claw configuration) are not allowed. Those are 
>> >>> the basics. Also, blood is not allowed. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >>> >Sent: 12 April 2002 16:52
>> >>> >To: CF-Community
>> >>> >Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >Pig is one of the animals specifically mentioned as being 
>> >>> not allowed. Even
>> >>> >when I wasn't religious I didn't eat it (and I was just a 
>> >>> kid). Closest I've
>> >>> >come is soy bacon. salty, but I love it. :)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >At 11:39 AM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>> >>> >>so as far as your concerned it's a commandment not to eat pork?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >>> >>Sent: 12 April 2002 16:40
>> >>> >>To: CF-Community
>> >>> >>Subject: Re: Circumcision article link
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>Actually, a religious person (at least this one) looks at 
>> >>> it and says that
>> >>> >>its a commandment and I'm doing it because its a 
>> >>> commandment. If science
>> >>> >>says that the commandment has a physical effect, then fine 
>> >>> and good. The
>> >>> >>physical effect is totally secondary to the spiritual effect.
>> >>> >>To say that the commandment or every commandment was done 
>> >>> for a physical
>> >>> >>reason such as health opens the door to denial of the 
>> root of the
>> >>> >>commandment. Hey, not eating pork was because of 
>> >>> trichinosis. If we cook it
>> >>> >>right then we wouldn't get the disease and we can now eat 
>> >>> it. Same for all
>> >>> >>the other commandments. This is the rational of the reform 
>> >>> movement and a
>> >>> >>rational rejected by religious Jews. 
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>At 03:51 AM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>> >>> >>>It seems that much of the old testament law, such as 
>> >>> circumcision, what to
>> >>> >>eat and not to eat, etc., has a good basis in what is 
>> >>> healthy, especailly
>> >>> >>given the lack of sanitary conditions of the times.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>A religious person might argue that this is God making up 
>> >>> the lack of
>> >>> >>science of the time to protect people. A non-believer might 
>> >>> argue that this
>> >>> >>is wise people coming up religious law to mirror their own 
>> >>> observations
>> >>> >>about what makes a person sick.  Either way, it 
>> >>> demonstrates a good deal of
>> >>> >>wisdom in the old books.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>H.
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >>> >>>from: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>> >>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> >>>date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:56:23 -0700
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>>>Found a link to the original article on circumcision & 
>> >>> risk of cervical
>> >>> >>>>cancer - it's in the New England Journal of Medicine:
>> >>> >>>>http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/346/15/1105
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>Apparently, the foreskin is particularly susceptible to 
>> >>> infection from
>> >>> >HPV
>> >>> >>-
>> >>> >>>>human papilloma virus - which is linked to cervical cancer.
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>>-Ben
>> >>> >>>>
>> >>> >>>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> 
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> 
>
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