Why is filet a no no?

-----Original Message-----
From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:42 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Circumcision article link

Mikey-
tell 'em about which kinds of steak are ok, which not! (e.g. no Filet)
-Ben

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:44 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
> 
> 
> A Kosher rare steak might have some 'meat juice' in it but 
> the blood has all been drained and the meat has been salted. 
> If you ate a Kosher steak I'd expect it to taste very 
> different than a non-Kosher one.
> 
> At 12:43 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
> >What about rare steak?
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> >Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:42 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
> >
> >No Jewish vampires either. 
> >Yes, one can eat non-Kosher is their life depends on it but 
> vampires are
> >by definition not alive so their life can't depend on it. 
> i.e. a vampire
> >who's Jewish and religious has to starve.
> >
> >At 12:31 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
> >>Gee, somehow I knew the Masai weren't Jewish
> >>;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:31 AM
> >>> To: CF-Community
> >>> Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> At 12:19 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
> >>> >thanks, not eating pork is always something i've wondered about.
> >>> >
> >>> >whats the exact religious reason?
> >>> Laws of ritual purity when dealing with what you eat. Land 
> >>> animals have to have split hooves and chew their cud. Sea 
> >>> animals have to have fins and scales. Birds of prey 
> >>> (depending on claw configuration) are not allowed. Those are 
> >>> the basics. Also, blood is not allowed. 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> >-----Original Message-----
> >>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>> >Sent: 12 April 2002 16:52
> >>> >To: CF-Community
> >>> >Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >Pig is one of the animals specifically mentioned as being 
> >>> not allowed. Even
> >>> >when I wasn't religious I didn't eat it (and I was just a 
> >>> kid). Closest I've
> >>> >come is soy bacon. salty, but I love it. :)
> >>> >
> >>> >At 11:39 AM 4/12/02, you wrote:
> >>> >>so as far as your concerned it's a commandment not to eat pork?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>> >>Sent: 12 April 2002 16:40
> >>> >>To: CF-Community
> >>> >>Subject: Re: Circumcision article link
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>Actually, a religious person (at least this one) looks at 
> >>> it and says that
> >>> >>its a commandment and I'm doing it because its a 
> >>> commandment. If science
> >>> >>says that the commandment has a physical effect, then fine 
> >>> and good. The
> >>> >>physical effect is totally secondary to the spiritual effect.
> >>> >>To say that the commandment or every commandment was done 
> >>> for a physical
> >>> >>reason such as health opens the door to denial of the 
> root of the
> >>> >>commandment. Hey, not eating pork was because of 
> >>> trichinosis. If we cook it
> >>> >>right then we wouldn't get the disease and we can now eat 
> >>> it. Same for all
> >>> >>the other commandments. This is the rational of the reform 
> >>> movement and a
> >>> >>rational rejected by religious Jews. 
> >>> >>
> >>> >>At 03:51 AM 4/12/02, you wrote:
> >>> >>>It seems that much of the old testament law, such as 
> >>> circumcision, what to
> >>> >>eat and not to eat, etc., has a good basis in what is 
> >>> healthy, especailly
> >>> >>given the lack of sanitary conditions of the times.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>A religious person might argue that this is God making up 
> >>> the lack of
> >>> >>science of the time to protect people. A non-believer might 
> >>> argue that this
> >>> >>is wise people coming up religious law to mirror their own 
> >>> observations
> >>> >>about what makes a person sick.  Either way, it 
> >>> demonstrates a good deal of
> >>> >>wisdom in the old books.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>H.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >>> >>>from: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >>>date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:56:23 -0700
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>>Found a link to the original article on circumcision & 
> >>> risk of cervical
> >>> >>>>cancer - it's in the New England Journal of Medicine:
> >>> >>>>http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/346/15/1105
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>Apparently, the foreskin is particularly susceptible to 
> >>> infection from
> >>> >HPV
> >>> >>-
> >>> >>>>human papilloma virus - which is linked to cervical cancer.
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>>-Ben
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> 
> >>
> >
> >
> 

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