Jeff-
you're right
Tom Cruise is in the Church of Scientology
:-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garza, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:59 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
> 
> 
> Nit Picking here...  You are talking about Catholic Vampires (maybe
> Episcopalian as well).  There are plenty of "Christian" 
> religions that would
> probably welcome vampires.... <G>
> 
> Jeff Garza
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:52 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
> 
> 
> You know me, always researching the practical applications. 
> :) Of course, by
> definition a religious Christian vampire can't exist either. Taking
> communion or going to mass (requirements) would kill it automatically.
> 
> At 12:39 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
> >I'm glad you explained that, I didn't want to stick my neck 
> out on that 
> >issue.
> >;-)
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:42 AM
> >> To: CF-Community
> >> Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
> >> 
> >> 
> >> No Jewish vampires either.
> >> Yes, one can eat non-Kosher is their life depends on it but 
> >> vampires are by definition not alive so their life can't 
> >> depend on it. i.e. a vampire who's Jewish and religious 
> has to starve.
> >> 
> >> At 12:31 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
> >> >Gee, somehow I knew the Masai weren't Jewish
> >> >;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:31 AM
> >> >> To: CF-Community
> >> >> Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> At 12:19 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
> >> >> >thanks, not eating pork is always something i've 
> wondered about.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >whats the exact religious reason?
> >> >> Laws of ritual purity when dealing with what you eat. Land
> >> >> animals have to have split hooves and chew their cud. Sea 
> >> >> animals have to have fins and scales. Birds of prey 
> >> >> (depending on claw configuration) are not allowed. Those are 
> >> >> the basics. Also, blood is not allowed. 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> 
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> >> >Sent: 12 April 2002 16:52
> >> >> >To: CF-Community
> >> >> >Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Pig is one of the animals specifically mentioned as being
> >> >> not allowed. Even
> >> >> >when I wasn't religious I didn't eat it (and I was just a
> >> >> kid). Closest I've
> >> >> >come is soy bacon. salty, but I love it. :)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >At 11:39 AM 4/12/02, you wrote:
> >> >> >>so as far as your concerned it's a commandment not to 
> eat pork?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> >> >>Sent: 12 April 2002 16:40
> >> >> >>To: CF-Community
> >> >> >>Subject: Re: Circumcision article link
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Actually, a religious person (at least this one) looks at
> >> >> it and says that
> >> >> >>its a commandment and I'm doing it because its a
> >> >> commandment. If science
> >> >> >>says that the commandment has a physical effect, then fine
> >> >> and good. The
> >> >> >>physical effect is totally secondary to the spiritual 
> effect. To 
> >> >> >>say that the commandment or every commandment was done
> >> >> for a physical
> >> >> >>reason such as health opens the door to denial of the root of 
> >> >> >>the commandment. Hey, not eating pork was because of
> >> >> trichinosis. If we cook it
> >> >> >>right then we wouldn't get the disease and we can now eat
> >> >> it. Same for all
> >> >> >>the other commandments. This is the rational of the reform
> >> >> movement and a
> >> >> >>rational rejected by religious Jews.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>At 03:51 AM 4/12/02, you wrote:
> >> >> >>>It seems that much of the old testament law, such as
> >> >> circumcision, what to
> >> >> >>eat and not to eat, etc., has a good basis in what is
> >> >> healthy, especailly
> >> >> >>given the lack of sanitary conditions of the times.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>A religious person might argue that this is God making up
> >> >> the lack of
> >> >> >>science of the time to protect people. A non-believer might
> >> >> argue that this
> >> >> >>is wise people coming up religious law to mirror their own
> >> >> observations
> >> >> >>about what makes a person sick.  Either way, it
> >> >> demonstrates a good deal of
> >> >> >>wisdom in the old books.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>H.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>---------- Original Message 
> ----------------------------------
> >> >> >>>from: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >> >>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> >>>date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:56:23 -0700
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>Found a link to the original article on circumcision &
> >> >> risk of cervical
> >> >> >>>>cancer - it's in the New England Journal of Medicine: 
> >> >> >>>>http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/346/15/1105
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>Apparently, the foreskin is particularly susceptible to
> >> >> infection from
> >> >> >HPV
> >> >> >>-
> >> >> >>>>human papilloma virus - which is linked to cervical cancer.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>-Ben
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> 
> >> >
> >> 
> >
> 
> 
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