To my knowledge, the only two Christian faiths that take communion as a
Sacrament, and those are the Episcopals and the Catholics.  While all
Christian faiths are founded on the  birth, death and resurrection of Jesus
Christ, as well as many aspects of the Old Testament,  not all follow the
same sacramental chain.  

Jeff Garza

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:15 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Circumcision article link


It's not a question of welcome but of existence. When exposed to a religious
symbol a vampire flees or dies. Some legends say that it has to be held by a
believer in the symbol. Mass is full of symbols held by believers. Taking
communion is taking a symbol into the body. instant death.

At 12:58 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>Nit Picking here...  You are talking about Catholic Vampires (maybe 
>Episcopalian as well).  There are plenty of "Christian" religions that 
>would probably welcome vampires.... <G>
>
>Jeff Garza
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:52 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
>
>
>You know me, always researching the practical applications. :) Of 
>course, by definition a religious Christian vampire can't exist either. 
>Taking communion or going to mass (requirements) would kill it 
>automatically.
>
>At 12:39 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>>I'm glad you explained that, I didn't want to stick my neck out on 
>>that
>>issue.
>>;-)
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:42 AM
>>> To: CF-Community
>>> Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No Jewish vampires either.
>>> Yes, one can eat non-Kosher is their life depends on it but
>>> vampires are by definition not alive so their life can't 
>>> depend on it. i.e. a vampire who's Jewish and religious has to starve.
>>> 
>>> At 12:31 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>>> >Gee, somehow I knew the Masai weren't Jewish
>>> >;-)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:31 AM
>>> >> To: CF-Community
>>> >> Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> At 12:19 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>>> >> >thanks, not eating pork is always something i've wondered about.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >whats the exact religious reason?
>>> >> Laws of ritual purity when dealing with what you eat. Land 
>>> >> animals have to have split hooves and chew their cud. Sea animals 
>>> >> have to have fins and scales. Birds of prey (depending on claw 
>>> >> configuration) are not allowed. Those are the basics. Also, blood 
>>> >> is not allowed.
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> >> >Sent: 12 April 2002 16:52
>>> >> >To: CF-Community
>>> >> >Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Pig is one of the animals specifically mentioned as being
>>> >> not allowed. Even
>>> >> >when I wasn't religious I didn't eat it (and I was just a
>>> >> kid). Closest I've
>>> >> >come is soy bacon. salty, but I love it. :)
>>> >> >
>>> >> >At 11:39 AM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>>> >> >>so as far as your concerned it's a commandment not to eat pork?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> >> >>Sent: 12 April 2002 16:40
>>> >> >>To: CF-Community
>>> >> >>Subject: Re: Circumcision article link
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>Actually, a religious person (at least this one) looks at
>>> >> it and says that
>>> >> >>its a commandment and I'm doing it because its a
>>> >> commandment. If science
>>> >> >>says that the commandment has a physical effect, then fine
>>> >> and good. The
>>> >> >>physical effect is totally secondary to the spiritual effect. 
>>> >> >>To
>>> >> >>say that the commandment or every commandment was done
>>> >> for a physical
>>> >> >>reason such as health opens the door to denial of the root of
>>> >> >>the commandment. Hey, not eating pork was because of
>>> >> trichinosis. If we cook it
>>> >> >>right then we wouldn't get the disease and we can now eat
>>> >> it. Same for all
>>> >> >>the other commandments. This is the rational of the reform
>>> >> movement and a
>>> >> >>rational rejected by religious Jews.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>At 03:51 AM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>>> >> >>>It seems that much of the old testament law, such as
>>> >> circumcision, what to
>>> >> >>eat and not to eat, etc., has a good basis in what is
>>> >> healthy, especailly
>>> >> >>given the lack of sanitary conditions of the times.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>A religious person might argue that this is God making up
>>> >> the lack of
>>> >> >>science of the time to protect people. A non-believer might
>>> >> argue that this
>>> >> >>is wise people coming up religious law to mirror their own
>>> >> observations
>>> >> >>about what makes a person sick.  Either way, it
>>> >> demonstrates a good deal of
>>> >> >>wisdom in the old books.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>H.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> >> >>>from: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >> >>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >> >>>date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:56:23 -0700
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>>Found a link to the original article on circumcision &
>>> >> risk of cervical
>>> >> >>>>cancer - it's in the New England Journal of Medicine:
>>> >> >>>>http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/346/15/1105
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>Apparently, the foreskin is particularly susceptible to
>>> >> infection from
>>> >> >HPV
>>> >> >>-
>>> >> >>>>human papilloma virus - which is linked to cervical cancer.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>-Ben
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> 
>>> >
>>> 
>>
>
>

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