Mikey,

you said 
"If I believe that Asp is the best language around"

recall that Cleopatra was bitten by an Asp.
so there.

-Ben


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:01 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> 
> 
> At 02:58 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
> >I'm confused now.  You are saying that you can call yourself 
> Christian by
> >believing in a single common tenet.  Is this correct?  That 
> is like me
> >saying I am Buhdist because I believe in luck.
> >
> >That has nothing to do with my question.  I was questioning 
> the contention
> >that "the messianics" are not Jewish because of the 
> DISBELIEF in a single
> >Jewish tenet.
> 
> Its the specific belief. The belief in Jesus as messiah means 
> that someone is Christian. The fact that they want to say 
> "we're Jews and Christians at the same time" is the thing 
> that I'm speaking against. Your either a Jew or a Christian. 
> You can't be both. If you believe that Jesus was the messiah, 
> the son of God, God made flesh, etc. then your of a different 
> religion. Belief is the focus here. If I believe that Asp is 
> the best language around, can I believe that ColdFusion is 
> the best language around? Can there be two bests? No. There 
> can only be one best and everything else is less than best. 
> You can't be both Jewish in belief and Christian in belief. 
> 
> 
> >=====
> >Russel Madere
> >Senior Software Engineer
> >Turbo Squid, Inc.
> >http://www.turbosquid.com
> >
> >Is your head tag nested within your body tag?
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:47 PM
> >> To: CF-Community
> >> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> >>
> >>
> >> Christians also believe in God. As long as I can 'hook' onto a
> >> single belief I can call myself anything I want. Actually, I
> >> don't even need that. I can say I'm African American and if it
> >> upsets people then they just have to deal with it. Just like the
> >> messianics.
> >>
> >> At 02:41 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
> >> >If you want.  But the point I was making was that not ALL
> >> Chritian clerics
> >> >believe that Jews don't belive Jesus was the Messiah.
> >> >
> >> >However, remember the definition of chrisitianity I was taught.
> >> Christians
> >> >Belive Jesus was the Messiah AND Belive he freed us from 
> the Jewish laws.
> >> >So if you want to call yourself a Christian and have me 
> believe that, you
> >> >have to meet that definition.
> >> >
> >> >=====
> >> >Russel Madere
> >> >Senior Software Engineer
> >> >Turbo Squid, Inc.
> >> >http://www.turbosquid.com
> >> >
> >> >Is your head tag nested within your body tag?
> >> >
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> >> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:31 PM
> >> >> To: CF-Community
> >> >> Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> So basically I can call myself a Christian? I believe in God and
> >> >> that should be enough to claim it.
> >> >>
> >> >> >Jewish laws, except for the Messianic Jews.  They believed
> >> that Jesus was
> >> >> >the Messiah but did not free us from the Jewish laws.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> 
> >
> 
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