Let me start by saying you can't read shit for shit to use your own words. My post did not say Muslims. It said Taliban. It said Hamas. It said extremists who only operate in black and white. Extremists who have no problem living in black and white. People who are moderate or see the world in anything other than black and white are almost never part of these groups and if they are they leave or are killed. Oh, and they are never anywhere near leadership. Try reading before letting your own problems spout off at me. This thread and my response is about diplomacy with the Taliban, NOT WITH THE MUSLIM WORLD OR AFGANISTAN! Stop reading into what I'm saying and instead read what I'm saying.
Now let me ask you why you're being such a dick? This has not been the first time when you've gone on the attack rather than read and deal with a conversation. On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is why I don't take you seriously in the slightest. Everything is > black and white to you and there is no potential room for moderates. > Fine, you've got your cut and dried world view, please take it > somewhere where you don't run up against the very complicated and > greyscale actual world. One of my best friends in the world spent 2 > years wandering from local town hall to local town hall in Afghanistan > trying to help convince people that they ought to grow something other > than opium poppies. And they did a surprisingly good job. And she, yes > "she", was dealt with by the men with big beards and a sometimes > hostile attitude. It is not a situation where everything is going to > be sweetness and light right away. But yes, there are moderate > elements and yes they balance religion with the needs of their people > and even with political reality. And you don't know shit for shit > Michael. She showed her eyes in public, she raised money for schools > for girls in Afghanistan. Is it a perfect system? Hell no. Far far > from it. But you? You know fuck all about the situation and are > spouting intolerant crap with no basis in reality. Give it a rest and > have a little respect for the people on the ground that are trying to > make a better future. Yes, with the moderates. > > Judah > > On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Michael Dinowitz > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > And next is moderate elements of Hamas, then moderate elements of > Hizballah, > > then, then, then. I'm sorry to say this in a totally sweeping way but > these > > organizations have no moderate elements. Those that are moderate either > > leave or are killed. > > > > Pakastan has dealt with the 'moderate' elements of the Taliban and you > can > > just do a google search on "swat valley". As you can see, these groups > have > > one goal and that is Islamic dominance over all. The only middle ground > > between then and us is that we both breath air and they hate us for that. > > Moderate to them is letting women show their eyes in public (and no, I'm > not > > really joking here). > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:291043 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
