On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Deep left field...it's out of the park.
>> You using gg's strategy?
>
> The parallel is quite clear Sam. You said that defending Acorn in any
> way is justifying child prostitution.

Nope. We're talking about the current situation. Jeffery Dahmer took
care of his grandmother. Does that make him a good guy?

You were defending them against the current accusations by claiming
the good outweighed the bad. That's changing the subject, let's focus
on the charges at hand.


> Of course Acorn isn't involved
> in child prostitution, nor are any of its employees (as far as we are
> aware of course). I said that Acorn had done a lot of good with its
> programs to get low income folks into houses they can afford and keep.
> You said that that was justifying child prostitution.

You were deflecting the charges.

> The Catholic church, by contrast, has had actual employees engage in
> the sexual abuse of children and actively worked to cover it up. But
> I'm not going to say that the entire church is corrupt. I really don't
> think it is. I think that they do a lot of good work in their schools,
> in their charities, etc. If I followed your "logic", praising the
> charity work of the church would be defending sexual abuse of
> children. That logic is flawed and applies neither to the Catholic
> Church nor ACORN.

Apples and oranges. ACORN is under investigation in many states for
many wrong doings. This is another item to add to the list. This also
seems to show a pattern of training.

>> Study came out today saying teen pregnancy is up in religious states
>> but they don't know why.
>> Could be religious people are stupid, then they mention it might be
>> non religious areas have much higher abortion rates.
>>
>> I'm glad you have it figured out.
>
> I'm glad I have it figured out too. Fortunately, I wasn't very
> difficult. Teaching abstinence is a good thing, I certainly plan on
> doing so with my child. Teaching *only* abstinence is monumentally
> stupid. Willful ignorance is not an educational strategy. That is the
> opposite of education. Do I need to make that more clear?
>
> Ignorance != Education
>
> Yet we have a very vocal group of folks out there that insist that
> ignorance is education and work to get it (and only it) funded. Yeah,
> really not that difficult to figure out Sam.

Depends on the age, and the type of information being taught.
But for you it's black and white and you are always right in your mind.

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