On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: > > 9/11 happened for 3 core reasons: > > (1.) Foreign policy: US enabling of corrupt mid-east regimes or > meddling in internal affairs
The Saudis asked us there to protect them against Iraq. So that argument doesn't work. > (2.) Domestic policy: US immigration enforcement failure (enforcement > of student visas) That's a tricky one. > (3.) Domestic procedure: US security communication (Bush to listen, > the FBI to listen, the CIA to coordinate, etc etc) Clinton broke that, Bush fixed it. > The real question is are any of these actually changed? No. > > (1.) Bush's war in Iraq has made #1 1000x worse and we're risking even > more damage with Afghanistan now. What? I heard many Mid-East countries are upset that Obama is abandoning them. Yeah you'll always find extremists that hate us but the Iraq war was a success. I say was because I'm nit sure that'll be true in the future. > (2.) It's not clear that enforcement is better, it's just harder to > get the visas. Well, the fact that the Patriot Act just stopped a major terrorist attack in the US shows that it is working. You can give credit to Obama for that since he didn't dismantle Bush's policies. > (3.) DHS - has it fixed anything? Doesn't seem like it. Yes, not perfect but it worked better than what Clinton left us. > Thus we'd be serious idiots to test our non-fixed systems. Your trying to hard to save his image, let it go. If he was a great leader as you thought, he would have known Chicago didn't have a chance. That's according to the NYT. Now he's going to take on Iran ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:305069 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
