He said LEGAL RESIDENTS.

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From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2010 10:20 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Closing the border


works for short trips, less so for longer stays. Some people are here
for years quite legally, you know. I was here for about five years
before I applied for a green card.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Once again, I do not think you should be allowed to get a driver's
> license in the US if you are not a citizen or legal resident.  If your
> Canadian license expires while you are here, tough shit - go back to
> Canada and get a new one. It is your responsibility to make sure your
> driver's license is up to date. My license was due to expire when I
> was in Scotland, so I made sure to renew it before we left. I know,
> its that whole common sense thing getting in the way again.
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:10 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> forgot to address this. Suppose you were there for several months and
>> your license expired while you were there? I think my dad went through
>> something of the kind while we were in France, though I don't remember
>> if he resolved it by getting a French license. I am also sure that
>> this arose while we were in Washington, as he'd been gone from Canada
>> for years by then, but again, I don't know what he did. I do know that
>> my sister and I got Maryland driver's licenses.
>>
>>> I went to Scotland 2 years ago and drove all over the place. But I did
>>> so under my WV drivers license. I doubt I could gave gotten a Scottish
>>> license while I was there.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 28, 2010, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You said it was a privilege that is or should be (I forget and am not
>>>> going to look it up) restricted to citizens and legal residents. What
>>>> about my dad when he moved here? He was here for three years as a
>>>> foreign correspondent for a chain of Canadian papers. The visa is a
>>>> non-resident visa. What about all the Canadians who live in Florida
>>>> six months a year?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I never said tourists would not be allowed to drive, they should, as
>>>>> long as they have a valid driver's license in their own country.
>>>>> Tourist != illegal immigrant
>>>>
>>>> well, I think it's more something along the lines of this: If you are
>>>> desperate enough to cross illegally, you probably don't own a car.
>>>>
>>>>> However, tourists should not be allowed to get a driver's license in
>>>>> the United States if they are not citizens or legal residents. But,
>>>>> somehow I doubt an illegal immigrant would want to use the driver's
>>>>> license from their country of origin.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> whatever. It's a privilege sure but I don't think it has anything to
>>>>>> do with immigration status. Are you saying that Canadian tourists
>>>>>> should not drive? The Florida economy might take a hit then, and all
>>>>>> the states between there and Quebec ;p
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In America, driving is a privilege afforded to the citizens and
legal
>>>>>>> residents of each state. If you are here illegally, you are not a
>>>>>>> citizen or legal resident of a state, therefore, you should not be
>>>>>>> allowed to get a driver's license.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's next? Should illegals be allowed to get social security
>>>>>>> numbers? Be allowed to vote? Run for public office?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What you call prejudice, I call common sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Dana <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> well, they did get insurance, actually, before REAL-ID forced New
>>>>>>>> Mexico to verify citizenship before issuing a driver's license.
Your
>>>>>>>> prejudices are showing. A driver's license doesn't legalize
anyone's
>>>>>>>> immigration status. It's just a license to drive. It does however
>>>>>>>> allow people to get insurance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 8:45 AM, Dana <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Well, you can't have it both ways. New Mexico stopped requiring
proof
>>>>>>>>>> of citizenship for driver's licenses so people could get
insurance,
>>>>>>>>>> and got their hands smacked for it, If you want people to have
>>>>>>>>>> insurance, they have to be able to get a driver's license.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, your solution to the problem is to a legalize the illegal
activity?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How about making it more difficult for illegals to get driver's
>>>>>>>>> licenses?  I somehow doubt there are a huge number of illegal
>>>>>>>>> immigrants lining up to get auto insurance. They are already
breaking
>>>>>>>>> the law by being here, does anyone really think they will start
caring
>>>>>>>>> about the law when it comes to auto insurance?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I do not think illegal immigrants should be allowed to get
driver's licenses.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Scott Stroz
>>>>>>>>> ---------------
>>>>>>>>> You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can
>>>>>>>>> wonder what the f*&k happened. - Cpt. Phil Harris
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://xkcd.com/386/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 



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