There are magnet schools in almost every school district specifically
intended for this purpose. Frequently these magnet schools are far better
institutions than most private schools. 

Moreover I strongly disagree with backwarding (confining to the equivalent
of the back ward in a psych hospital) kids in public schools. Their
development is as important as every other kid's. Your experience is
typical. There just was not enough help in the school room. 

One proposal has been to use classroom assistants to reduce the
teacher-student ratio. thus when teachers have to deal with special needs
students who have, the assistants can pick up the slack. They can be either
paid or volunteer aides. Another 

Another way of alleviating this is to use parents to help out in the
schools. One of the best things I saw in a couple of the schools I looked at
on this project in Houston was parental involvement. That had the greatest
impact on the student school performance. We saw significant increases in
attendance, for all kids not just the kids of the aide, both school grades
and standardized test performances also showed significant improvement.

I've also done parallel analyses on some of the NORC data
(http://www.NORC.org) using a population of about 3000 5th through 8th
graders, in the cohort years 1987 through 1990, and found very similar
results. Parental involvement and teacher-student ratio had a much greater
influence on subsequent academic performance. They had considerably more
influence than for instance whether the student went to a public or private
school or socio-economic status.

larry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:31 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education
> 
> 
> I don't want just choice.  I want to see privatized schools that cater
> to those with problems.  There were many times that I was held up in a
> class because a teacher had to cater to someone else who wasn't at the
> same level.  Albeit that didn't happen as much in the AP 
> classes I took.
> Have a school that caters to gifted children and gives them 
> the specific
> attention they need and have a school that gives specific attention to
> those who have needs in other areas.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:25 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education
> 
> Yes the Wonderful world of vouchers, the panacea of all of our
> educational
> woes. Do I hear skimming here? No private school is required 
> to take the
> special needs kids that public schools are required to do so by law. I
> would
> have no problem with vouchers if the exact same standards for public
> education are applied to private schools in order to receive vouchers.
> This
> includes all constitutionality issues and issues of free access. Your
> local
> religious school would have to deal with those kids with tourettes or
> Autism
> or ADHD etc at certain minimal standards or those kids who 
> get fed as an
> afterthought, instead of not allowing them in the school in the first
> place.
> if a sectarian school, or any private school want to get government
> money or
> services then they have to follow minimal standards. I would 
> not be too
> surprised if the exact same standards have to be met by 
> private schools,
> most will quickly drop out. Quite rapidly this so-called school choice
> becomes no choice at all.
> 
> larry 
> 
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> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:11 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: My thoughts on Education
> > 
> > 
> > The wonderful world of vouchers.  I get the same amount of 
> tax dollars
> > that is spent on my son to go to public school.  Of course this
> > transition takes time and you have to do it right.  Otherwise 
> > the public
> > schools, as they faze out will be a wreck.  So at the same 
> > time I think
> > additional funds would be needed to help them.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William H. Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:09 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: My thoughts on Education
> > 
> > Alright, I'll bite...
> > 
> > and we'll start simple, one point at a time (one point at a 
> time offer
> > not
> > valid in all states or states of mind... ;-)
> > How do you propose that these "privatized" schools make money, not
> > necessarily profit mind you, but just meet operating expenses.
> > 
> > will
> > ----
> > 
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> > Webmaster
> > ALSTOM's Energy Management & Markets Business
> > 
> > "Your friendly neighborhood Webmaster"
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > http://www.esca.com/
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:01 AM
> > Subject: My thoughts on Education
> > 
> > 
> > > Personally I am not a big fan of public education.  My son 
> > will attend
> > > private schools, unless there is a fundamental change.  I think
> > schools
> > > should be privatized.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:56 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Slowly I crawl back....i'll be nice this time.
> > >
> > > Good.
> > >
> > > its still happening - feel free to jump in with your 
> > education system
> > > opinions at any time.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:47 AM
> > > Subject: Slowly I crawl back....i'll be nice this time.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ok I'm back....in the words of Eminem...life just isn't any fun
> > > without
> > > > me. :)
> > > >
> > > > I see I missed one of my favorite debates when I looked at the
> > > archives,
> > > > our public education system!  Darn it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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