Howie Hamlin wrote: > Our constitution and laws are, at the most basic, meant to protect citizens of the >United States.
I don't think so. Granted I haven't read the entire constitution, but the distinction between persons and citizens is made very clearly. And amendments 4 and 5 are not just for citizens. One could argue that the fourth amendment, which uses the term "people", only refers to American citizens, but in lieu with for instance article 1 section 2 of the Constitution this is doubtfull. Naturally, the fifth amendment, which uses the term "person", can not just apply to citizens. > Whether these protections apply > to foreign nationals is not part of our constitution - especially in times of war. > >During peaceful times, America and its freedoms > are for citizens and non-citizens. In times of war, America has an obligation and a >right to do whatever is necessary to protect > its citizens. I wonder how international treaties such as the Geneva Convention and the "non first use treaty" relate to this. Are you saying that America has an obligation not to honour these treaties if they may conflict with protecting its citizens? > It's easy for other people to point the finger at America because we have so many >freedoms but, I assure you, that if > it's a matter of lessening the freedoms of foreign nationals in order to protect >America then that's what will happen. After the PATRIOT act, there is nothing to assure. It already happened, and I find it doubtfull that it will protect America. I am just wondering; when Bush promised to go after the people that financed terrorism, did he realize that most of the IRA's funding comes from America? How many people have been arrested for that? Jochem PS, would you mind taking a look at your settings for line wrapping? ______________________________________________________________________ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
