Howie,

re: soldiers at airport - landed at Tel Aviv in 1972, couple of months
after the Japanese Red Army Faction did terror attack on airport terminal.
very serious, very scary - and a lot more effective than what the U.S. is
playing at re: security IMHO.  And during our stay in Israel was the Munich
Olympic massacre.

like McDonnell sent engineers to learn from the Israelis who improved the
F4 Phantom fighter-bomber, I think we should send security personnel to
school in Israel. Not that they're perfect, mind you, as evidenced by the
number of terror bombers whom they are unable to stop.  <sigh>]

Take care...

-Ben



At 03:19 PM 6/2/02 -0400, you wrote:
>I agree with you.  I also hope that we do not have permanently diminished
freedoms.  However, I think that most Americans would
>sacrifice a bit of freedom in order to live safely.
>
>I remember going to Germany once and seeing the soldiers with machine guns
and German Shepards at the airport.  At that time (1991)
>it made me feel a bit uneasy (although I've always questioned the security
at our airports).  However, I find armed personnel at
>airports make me feel more secure now and it just goes to show that times
change and we all need to either evolve and take action or
>lose everything in the end.  It's sad, but true, that there are many
people that are challenging our way of life and the very
>existence of our country and we can's sit by and watch it happen.
>
>Regards,
>
>Howie
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ben Braver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 3:08 PM
>Subject: Re: If you don't
>
>
>> Howie,
>>
>> you said,
>>
>> >
>> >In times of war (and, yes, this is a war - albeit a non-conventional one)
>> a country needs to take extra steps to provide security.
>> >
>> I just hope and pray that the freedoms and privileges stemming from our
>> constitution are not permanently diminished once the war is over. Or, does
>> "terrorism" become a permanent enemy, the war a never-ending one, the
>> freedoms only a memory?
>>
>> My fear right now is that government and law enforcement see the current
>> crisis as the opportunity to implement long-held agendas that would have
>> been roundly condemne in more secure times (before 9/11).
>>
>> -Ben
>
>
>
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