Sam <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> We don't need anyones permission. The UN is useless.
>

True, we don't, but we'll fail without it - at least based on history;
Luckily this topic is less debate and more fact-based since we have lots of
precedents:

(1.) Japan
(2.) Germany
(3.) Korea
(4.) Russia
(5.) The Balkans

Given we won WWII, the Cold War, and the Balkans, I'd say we have a good
basis of policy for western country reform.

Whether that applies to Middle Eastern countries is the big question since
nobody has had success there, but then we haven't tried.

And, as you've implied, this is more art than science.


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