You mean the civilians that had terrorists hiding in their buildings and
using them as ammo dumps? Israel makes a concerted effort to avoid civilian
casulties and if you looked at their record vs. ANY other army you would see
that. Israel does NOT target civilians.

The Palestinians never had a homeland. The Turks didn't give them one. The
British took 4/5 of what was set aside for a national home for the Jewish
people and made Jordan, who's people are basically the same as the
Palestinians. Of the remaining 1/5, half was going to go to the Jews and
half to the remaining Palestinians. The Jews accepted their state while the
Palestinians rejected theirs. The result was invasion of the surrounding
Arab states of the sliver of land that was Israel. If the Palestinians
didn't turn to war and accepted a state, they would be celebrating 65 years
now.
Oh, that Palestinian homeland was not given by Egypt when it controlled
Gaza. It was not given by Jordan when they controlled the West Bank.

Israel had and has nothing to do with Holocaust guilt. The Balfour
declaration was signed WAY before there was a holocaust. I really think you
need to read up on the Balfour declaration as well as statistics of the
Israeli army vs. other armies when it comes to things like civilian
casualties, property damage, and other things associated with combat. You're
letting your emotions run your arguments rather than facts.


On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Eric Roberts <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Tell that to the civilians that have had their neighborhoods bombed by
> f-15's and Cobra gunships.  Palestinians already have a homeland...the one
> the British and the UN took away from them and gave to Israel to assuage
> their guilt over the Holocaust.  2 wrongs do not make a right.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maureen [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 05:55 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Israel PM rejects 1967 border proposal.
>
>
> Israel is not waging a war of terror, they are waging a war of survival,
> defending against sworn enemies.  Their tactics are often harsh, but their
> motives have nothing to do with terrorism, and rhetoric accusing them of
> terrorism adds nothing productive to the dialogue.
>
> Palestine is also not waging a war of terror, although their methods more
> closely resemble terrorist activities. Refusing to acknowledge their desire
> for a homeland also adds nothing to the dialogue.
>
> Both sides need to dial it back, and come to the negotiating table with a
> real willingness to consider alternatives.  Otherwise, they will still be
> killing each other for hundreds of years.
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Eric Roberts
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > It's what happens when you also wage a war of terror instead of justice.
> > Israel has made it's own bed...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 02:10 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Israel PM rejects 1967 border proposal.
> >
> >
> > First off, I was paraphrasing Golda Meir who summed up Israel's
> > position in the Middle East:
> > "The Muslims can fight and lose, then come back and fight again. But
> > Israel can only lose once."
>
>
>
> 

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