That is still no excuse Michael and you know it. Targeting civilians is wrong no matter what. Palestinian extremist groups were wrong in their actions as well...but that doesn't excuse the actions of Israel, who does have control over what it's military does. Israel has committed war crimes and government officials should be punished for it. Sorry, but as far as Israel not targeting civilians, I am going to have to call total bullshit of that Michael.
Yes...because the British Imperialists took the land makes it so much better...whatever....it was still the Palestinian homeland as it has for the past 2000 years. The Balfour declaration was illegal as the Brits had no right to do what they did. Of course they rejected it...wouldn't you? Let's go take your property away and give you a 1/10th of your land and see how eager you would be to give that up...please. Give me a break. Israel had nothing to do with Holocaust guilt? Seriously Mike? Yeah...go look at Israeli casualties vs Palestinian casualties. Let's talk about that TOTALLY disproportionate number there... -----Original Message----- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 06:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Israel PM rejects 1967 border proposal. You mean the civilians that had terrorists hiding in their buildings and using them as ammo dumps? Israel makes a concerted effort to avoid civilian casulties and if you looked at their record vs. ANY other army you would see that. Israel does NOT target civilians. The Palestinians never had a homeland. The Turks didn't give them one. The British took 4/5 of what was set aside for a national home for the Jewish people and made Jordan, who's people are basically the same as the Palestinians. Of the remaining 1/5, half was going to go to the Jews and half to the remaining Palestinians. The Jews accepted their state while the Palestinians rejected theirs. The result was invasion of the surrounding Arab states of the sliver of land that was Israel. If the Palestinians didn't turn to war and accepted a state, they would be celebrating 65 years now. Oh, that Palestinian homeland was not given by Egypt when it controlled Gaza. It was not given by Jordan when they controlled the West Bank. Israel had and has nothing to do with Holocaust guilt. The Balfour declaration was signed WAY before there was a holocaust. I really think you need to read up on the Balfour declaration as well as statistics of the Israeli army vs. other armies when it comes to things like civilian casualties, property damage, and other things associated with combat. You're letting your emotions run your arguments rather than facts. On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Eric Roberts < [email protected]> wrote: > > Tell that to the civilians that have had their neighborhoods bombed by > f-15's and Cobra gunships. Palestinians already have a homeland...the > one the British and the UN took away from them and gave to Israel to > assuage their guilt over the Holocaust. 2 wrongs do not make a right. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Maureen [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 05:55 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Israel PM rejects 1967 border proposal. > > > Israel is not waging a war of terror, they are waging a war of > survival, defending against sworn enemies. Their tactics are often > harsh, but their motives have nothing to do with terrorism, and > rhetoric accusing them of terrorism adds nothing productive to the dialogue. > > Palestine is also not waging a war of terror, although their methods > more closely resemble terrorist activities. Refusing to acknowledge > their desire for a homeland also adds nothing to the dialogue. > > Both sides need to dial it back, and come to the negotiating table > with a real willingness to consider alternatives. Otherwise, they > will still be killing each other for hundreds of years. > > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Eric Roberts > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > It's what happens when you also wage a war of terror instead of justice. > > Israel has made it's own bed... > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 02:10 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: Re: Israel PM rejects 1967 border proposal. > > > > > > First off, I was paraphrasing Golda Meir who summed up Israel's > > position in the Middle East: > > "The Muslims can fight and lose, then come back and fight again. But > > Israel can only lose once." > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:338314 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
