bullshit. That's just an excuse for apathy. Sorry to jump all over you
but I've heard that way too much lately. First of all, the meaning of
safety and security both depend on many factors. It makes a lot of
difference whether we're talking about tracking cookies or terrorist
activity, Anon script kiddies or freaking NSA.

It's when you talk about cybersecurity as one big fungible mess that
you get stupidity like this bill. Chinese government hackers fall in
the category of cybersecurity, sure. Hollywood has a cybersecurity
problem if their stuff is getting posted on the web, sure, but it's a
different type of cybersecurity problem and some might say a licensing
model problem. Similarly, I think the authors of this bill see the use
of Twitter by Occupy activists as a cybersecurity problem because it
involves the internet and Occupy makes them feel insecure ;P but I
submit that it's not really, until you criminalize protest, so some
might say that it's really a free speech problem ;)

But if we throw up our hands over theis because Facebook can't seem to
understand that it should abide by its own terms of service -- which
is a cybersecurity problem for you and me imho -- then we may as well
kiss the internet goodbye. Sure, we should all take precautions
anyway. But a web service that *knows* it is being use to organize an
Arab Spring has a responsibility to put some safeguards in place also,
and it's the corporate responsibility part that is so shockingly
lacking in CISPA.

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Eric Roberts
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Nothing on the net is safe or secure..
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:47 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah, looks like they have some anti-piracy group called SAFE that can pull
>> the plug on sites at will, and do all kinds of surveillance.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Eric Roberts <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Didn't the swiss also crack down on stuff like this as well?  Correct me
>> if
>> > i am wrong, bu did't they alos go after Pirate Bay?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Wuala seems to be the most secure online backup solution. It stores
>> > NOTHING
>> > > in the United States and goes to great lengths to ensure that its staff
>> > > have no access to any of your files. It's based in Switzerland.
>> > >
>> > > With CISPA about to pass in the US (we can hope it won't, but so far
>> the
>> > > public outrage has been low compared to SOPA and ACTA), this is worth a
>> > > look. We all need to decide how much we value our personal/business
>> data,
>> > > and whether we are ok with employees at these companies being able to
>> > > browse what we store.
>> > >
>> > > http://youtu.be/43EnCOpXD4Q
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 

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