Word to your Dana....

On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 11:42 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Clean out your ears. I'm not saying anything of the kind and I don't
> have the patience tonight to help you catch up.
>
> Yon the other hand seem to be saying that because some people's
> information is obtainable by some process when necessary, it's ok to
> do away with the process for everyone's everything. Sorry if I am not
> ok with that. If it doesn't bother you, then don't let me stop you
> from getting back to tonight's episode of The Bachelor or whatever,
> shrug.
>
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 8:33 PM, Eric Roberts
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > How is it sticking your head anywhere...if anything, saying that it's ok
> to
> > put your info somewhere, knowing theta they can get to it anyway is
> really
> > sticking your head in the sand and pretending that they can't.  If you
> want
> > to put it out there, that is fine, but realize that no what you do, if
> you
> > are storing it on the internet somewhere, it is not safe from government
> if
> > they really want to get to it.  The only way to keep it secure is to
> store
> > it somewhere that is not connected to the net.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 7:38 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: With CISPA on the horizon, use WUALA for cloud storage
> >
> >
> > ya, you're right, let's all stick our head ....::cough::
> >
> > Sorry, I still say it's an excuse for apathy.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Eric Roberts
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> If they want to get to your info...they will...so no...not bullshit.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:11 PM
> >> To: cf-community
> >> Subject: Re: With CISPA on the horizon, use WUALA for cloud storage
> >>
> >>
> >> bullshit. That's just an excuse for apathy. Sorry to jump all over you
> >> but I've heard that way too much lately. First of all, the meaning of
> >> safety and security both depend on many factors. It makes a lot of
> >> difference whether we're talking about tracking cookies or terrorist
> >> activity, Anon script kiddies or freaking NSA.
> >>
> >> It's when you talk about cybersecurity as one big fungible mess that
> >> you get stupidity like this bill. Chinese government hackers fall in
> >> the category of cybersecurity, sure. Hollywood has a cybersecurity
> >> problem if their stuff is getting posted on the web, sure, but it's a
> >> different type of cybersecurity problem and some might say a licensing
> >> model problem. Similarly, I think the authors of this bill see the use
> >> of Twitter by Occupy activists as a cybersecurity problem because it
> >> involves the internet and Occupy makes them feel insecure ;P but I
> >> submit that it's not really, until you criminalize protest, so some
> >> might say that it's really a free speech problem ;)
> >>
> >> But if we throw up our hands over theis because Facebook can't seem to
> >> understand that it should abide by its own terms of service -- which
> >> is a cybersecurity problem for you and me imho -- then we may as well
> >> kiss the internet goodbye. Sure, we should all take precautions
> >> anyway. But a web service that *knows* it is being use to organize an
> >> Arab Spring has a responsibility to put some safeguards in place also,
> >> and it's the corporate responsibility part that is so shockingly lacking
> > in CISPA.
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Eric Roberts
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Nothing on the net is safe or secure..
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:47 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, looks like they have some anti-piracy group called SAFE that
> >>>> can pull the plug on sites at will, and do all kinds of surveillance.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Eric Roberts <
> >>>> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Didn't the swiss also crack down on stuff like this as well?
> >>>> > Correct me
> >>>> if
> >>>> > i am wrong, bu did't they alos go after Pirate Bay?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Wuala seems to be the most secure online backup solution. It
> >>>> > > stores
> >>>> > NOTHING
> >>>> > > in the United States and goes to great lengths to ensure that
> >>>> > > its staff have no access to any of your files. It's based in
> > Switzerland.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > With CISPA about to pass in the US (we can hope it won't, but so
> >>>> > > far
> >>>> the
> >>>> > > public outrage has been low compared to SOPA and ACTA), this is
> >>>> > > worth a look. We all need to decide how much we value our
> >>>> > > personal/business
> >>>> data,
> >>>> > > and whether we are ok with employees at these companies being
> >>>> > > able to browse what we store.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > http://youtu.be/43EnCOpXD4Q
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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> >
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