If they want to get to your info...they will...so no...not bullshit.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:11 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: With CISPA on the horizon, use WUALA for cloud storage


bullshit. That's just an excuse for apathy. Sorry to jump all over you but
I've heard that way too much lately. First of all, the meaning of safety and
security both depend on many factors. It makes a lot of difference whether
we're talking about tracking cookies or terrorist activity, Anon script
kiddies or freaking NSA.

It's when you talk about cybersecurity as one big fungible mess that you get
stupidity like this bill. Chinese government hackers fall in the category of
cybersecurity, sure. Hollywood has a cybersecurity problem if their stuff is
getting posted on the web, sure, but it's a different type of cybersecurity
problem and some might say a licensing model problem. Similarly, I think the
authors of this bill see the use of Twitter by Occupy activists as a
cybersecurity problem because it involves the internet and Occupy makes them
feel insecure ;P but I submit that it's not really, until you criminalize
protest, so some might say that it's really a free speech problem ;)

But if we throw up our hands over theis because Facebook can't seem to
understand that it should abide by its own terms of service -- which is a
cybersecurity problem for you and me imho -- then we may as well kiss the
internet goodbye. Sure, we should all take precautions anyway. But a web
service that *knows* it is being use to organize an Arab Spring has a
responsibility to put some safeguards in place also, and it's the corporate
responsibility part that is so shockingly lacking in CISPA.

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Eric Roberts
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Nothing on the net is safe or secure..
>
> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:47 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah, looks like they have some anti-piracy group called SAFE that 
>> can pull the plug on sites at will, and do all kinds of surveillance.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Eric Roberts < 
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Didn't the swiss also crack down on stuff like this as well?  
>> > Correct me
>> if
>> > i am wrong, bu did't they alos go after Pirate Bay?
>> >
>> > On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Wuala seems to be the most secure online backup solution. It 
>> > > stores
>> > NOTHING
>> > > in the United States and goes to great lengths to ensure that its 
>> > > staff have no access to any of your files. It's based in Switzerland.
>> > >
>> > > With CISPA about to pass in the US (we can hope it won't, but so 
>> > > far
>> the
>> > > public outrage has been low compared to SOPA and ACTA), this is 
>> > > worth a look. We all need to decide how much we value our 
>> > > personal/business
>> data,
>> > > and whether we are ok with employees at these companies being 
>> > > able to browse what we store.
>> > >
>> > > http://youtu.be/43EnCOpXD4Q
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 



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