It only requires 1 element...the law states that driving while above a certain limit, you are violating the law...
-----Original Message----- From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 7:41 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: DUI Checkpoint Refusal Who is the victim? Describe to me the three elements necessary to make it a crime. According to true common law legal theory, who is the injured party? On Jul 8, 2013 8:38 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote: > > The crime occurs when someone operates a motor vehicle under the > influence, not when they cause (or are involved in) an accident while > under the influence. > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:19 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Over the limit does not mean there will be an accident. I don't is > > even > a 1 > > in 100 chance of there being an accident. > > > > The crime occurs when the accident does and not before. > > On Jul 8, 2013 8:17 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > How is it 'hypothetical safety'? > > > > > > If a single driver who is over the legal limit is taken off the > > > road, > > does > > > that not make it safer? > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 7:57 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In America we call that tyrany. > > > > > > > > Individual rights > the hypothetical safety of the group. > > > > On Jul 8, 2013 7:27 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having seen the damage a drunk driver can inflict first hand > > > > > (and > > more > > > > > times than I care to remember), I don't feel DUI checkpoints > > > > > are a violation of anyone's rights. If one life can be saved > > > > > by > > > inconveniencing > > > > > someone with a camera and an agenda...I am all for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Judah McAuley < > [email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having a camera on hand and ready to record is just smart, > > > > > > it > isn't > > > > > > necessarily trying to start shit. I'm prejudiced in favor of > > > > > > the > > guy, > > > > > > however, as I think that DUI checkpoints of that sort are > > > > > unconstitutional > > > > > > as they nothing about them that requires any sort of > > > > > > probable > > cause. > > > > > > Obviously the courts disagree, so that's that. > > > > > > > > > > > > But, yeah, I support making life hard for cops at DUI > checkpoints, > > > for > > > > > > screeners at the TSA, etc etc. Know your rights, insist on > > > > > > your > > > rights, > > > > > > hold the line. Someone has to and it is pretty obvious that > > > > > > the > > > courts > > > > > and > > > > > > the legislature isn't going to lead the way at this point in > > history. > > > > > > > > > > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Scott Stroz > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds to me like the guy who made the video was being an ass. > > Not > > > > > > illegal, > > > > > > > but he could have been on his way in much less time had he > > > > > > > not > > > tried > > > > to > > > > > > > 'make a point'. The fact that he had the camera ready to > > > > > > > go > > pretty > > > > much > > > > > > > shows he was going to try and start shit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:37 PM, J.J. Merrick > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This happened last night in the county next to mine here > > > > > > > > in > > > > > Tennessee. > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > video on Youtube already has half-a-million views and it > > > > > > > > is > > > blowing > > > > > up > > > > > > > > LiveLeak... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.wkrn.com/story/22770235/dui-checkpoint-video-youtube > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crazy what times have come to! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -J.J. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > | J.J. Merrick > > > > > > > > | Owner, Panos Creative > > > > > > > > | [email protected] > > > > > > > > | p: 615-973-7984 > > > > > > > > | http://panos.cc > > > > > > > > | http://jeremiahx.com > > > > > > > > | http://twitter.com/jeremiahx > > > > > > > > <http://facebook.com/jeremiahx> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:365285 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
