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Canadian Broadcast Company http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/05/01/f-q-a-trevor-aaronson.html But I'm just a wing nut On Jul 8, 2013 10:11 AM, "LRS Scout" <[email protected]> wrote: > Right > > There are a great many immoral laws out there > > Thanks for making my point. > > The enlightenment is dead and gone. You can't fight city hall. I'm from > the government and I'm here to help. > On Jul 8, 2013 9:45 AM, "Eric Roberts" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> There are many victimless crimes out there...so I am guessing your legal >> theory does not apply to real life practice... >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 8:37 AM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: RE: DUI Checkpoint Refusal >> >> >> In legal theory a crime only requires a single element? >> >> You should write a book some time. >> On Jul 8, 2013 9:35 AM, "Eric Roberts" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > >> > It only requires 1 element...the law states that driving while above a >> > certain limit, you are violating the law... >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 7:41 AM >> > To: cf-community >> > Subject: Re: DUI Checkpoint Refusal >> > >> > >> > Who is the victim? >> > >> > Describe to me the three elements necessary to make it a crime. >> > >> > According to true common law legal theory, who is the injured party? >> > On Jul 8, 2013 8:38 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > The crime occurs when someone operates a motor vehicle under the >> > > influence, not when they cause (or are involved in) an accident >> > > while under the influence. >> > > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:19 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > >> > > > >> > > > Over the limit does not mean there will be an accident. I don't is >> > > > even >> > > a 1 >> > > > in 100 chance of there being an accident. >> > > > >> > > > The crime occurs when the accident does and not before. >> > > > On Jul 8, 2013 8:17 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > How is it 'hypothetical safety'? >> > > > > >> > > > > If a single driver who is over the legal limit is taken off the >> > > > > road, >> > > > does >> > > > > that not make it safer? >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 7:57 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > In America we call that tyrany. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Individual rights > the hypothetical safety of the group. >> > > > > > On Jul 8, 2013 7:27 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Having seen the damage a drunk driver can inflict first hand >> > > > > > > (and >> > > > more >> > > > > > > times than I care to remember), I don't feel DUI checkpoints >> > > > > > > are a violation of anyone's rights. If one life can be saved >> > > > > > > by >> > > > > inconveniencing >> > > > > > > someone with a camera and an agenda...I am all for it. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Judah McAuley < >> > > [email protected] >> > > > > >> > > > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Having a camera on hand and ready to record is just smart, >> > > > > > > > it >> > > isn't >> > > > > > > > necessarily trying to start shit. I'm prejudiced in favor >> > > > > > > > of the >> > > > guy, >> > > > > > > > however, as I think that DUI checkpoints of that sort are >> > > > > > > unconstitutional >> > > > > > > > as they nothing about them that requires any sort of >> > > > > > > > probable >> > > > cause. >> > > > > > > > Obviously the courts disagree, so that's that. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > But, yeah, I support making life hard for cops at DUI >> > > checkpoints, >> > > > > for >> > > > > > > > screeners at the TSA, etc etc. Know your rights, insist on >> > > > > > > > your >> > > > > rights, >> > > > > > > > hold the line. Someone has to and it is pretty obvious >> > > > > > > > that the >> > > > > courts >> > > > > > > and >> > > > > > > > the legislature isn't going to lead the way at this point >> > > > > > > > in >> > > > history. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Judah >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Scott Stroz >> > > > > > > > <[email protected]> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Sounds to me like the guy who made the video was being >> > > > > > > > > an >> > ass. >> > > > Not >> > > > > > > > illegal, >> > > > > > > > > but he could have been on his way in much less time had >> > > > > > > > > he not >> > > > > tried >> > > > > > to >> > > > > > > > > 'make a point'. The fact that he had the camera ready to >> > > > > > > > > go >> > > > pretty >> > > > > > much >> > > > > > > > > shows he was going to try and start shit. >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:37 PM, J.J. Merrick >> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > This happened last night in the county next to mine >> > > > > > > > > > here in >> > > > > > > Tennessee. >> > > > > > > > > The >> > > > > > > > > > video on Youtube already has half-a-million views and >> > > > > > > > > > it is >> > > > > blowing >> > > > > > > up >> > > > > > > > > > LiveLeak... >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > http://www.wkrn.com/story/22770235/dui-checkpoint-video-youtube >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Crazy what times have come to! >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -J.J. >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > > > | J.J. 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