Right, should they be involved, key Property rights are unique in the United states. They should be sacrosanct but have been worked to near meaningless platitudes at this point. Zoning laws, hoas, new police powers, anti discrimination laws.
Its disgusting to me. How can you sit here and defend the corrupt rotten hulk of this one great republic. We know power corrupts. We know government will not assume a power with out using it. We know the government grows not shrinks. Letting the small shit slide is how we get to nonjudicial killings and detention with out charge and stop and frisk. Letting them prohibit crack and weed lets them prohibit fatty foods and big gulps. I'm tired of it. Sick of the platitudes about liberty and freedom when I see very little of either anymore. On Jul 8, 2013 11:22 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote: > > If someone stands on your property and does not impede you or bother you in > any way..who is the victim? How is that a crime, but driving a vehicle > under the influence is not - at least nit until you are involved in an > accident. > > Driving is a privilege, NOT a right. A privilege that can be revoked if you > do not follow the rules. You right to 'free passage' or whatever you want > to call it would not be infringed as you would still be able to walk, ride > a bike, etc. > > If you let someone drive who was a .08, in my mind, you are equally as > culpable as the person driving should they be involved in an accident. > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 9:37 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > In legal theory a crime only requires a single element? > > > > You should write a book some time. > > On Jul 8, 2013 9:35 AM, "Eric Roberts" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > It only requires 1 element...the law states that driving while above a > > > certain limit, you are violating the law... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 7:41 AM > > > To: cf-community > > > Subject: Re: DUI Checkpoint Refusal > > > > > > > > > Who is the victim? > > > > > > Describe to me the three elements necessary to make it a crime. > > > > > > According to true common law legal theory, who is the injured party? > > > On Jul 8, 2013 8:38 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The crime occurs when someone operates a motor vehicle under the > > > > influence, not when they cause (or are involved in) an accident while > > > > under the influence. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 8:19 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the limit does not mean there will be an accident. I don't is > > > > > even > > > > a 1 > > > > > in 100 chance of there being an accident. > > > > > > > > > > The crime occurs when the accident does and not before. > > > > > On Jul 8, 2013 8:17 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How is it 'hypothetical safety'? > > > > > > > > > > > > If a single driver who is over the legal limit is taken off the > > > > > > road, > > > > > does > > > > > > that not make it safer? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 7:57 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In America we call that tyrany. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Individual rights > the hypothetical safety of the group. > > > > > > > On Jul 8, 2013 7:27 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having seen the damage a drunk driver can inflict first hand > > > > > > > > (and > > > > > more > > > > > > > > times than I care to remember), I don't feel DUI checkpoints > > > > > > > > are a violation of anyone's rights. If one life can be saved > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > inconveniencing > > > > > > > > someone with a camera and an agenda...I am all for it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Judah McAuley < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having a camera on hand and ready to record is just smart, > > > > > > > > > it > > > > isn't > > > > > > > > > necessarily trying to start shit. I'm prejudiced in favor > of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > guy, > > > > > > > > > however, as I think that DUI checkpoints of that sort are > > > > > > > > unconstitutional > > > > > > > > > as they nothing about them that requires any sort of > > > > > > > > > probable > > > > > cause. > > > > > > > > > Obviously the courts disagree, so that's that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But, yeah, I support making life hard for cops at DUI > > > > checkpoints, > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > screeners at the TSA, etc etc. Know your rights, insist on > > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > rights, > > > > > > > > > hold the line. Someone has to and it is pretty obvious that > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > courts > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > the legislature isn't going to lead the way at this point > in > > > > > history. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Scott Stroz > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds to me like the guy who made the video was being an > > > ass. > > > > > Not > > > > > > > > > illegal, > > > > > > > > > > but he could have been on his way in much less time had > he > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > tried > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > 'make a point'. The fact that he had the camera ready to > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > pretty > > > > > > > much > > > > > > > > > > shows he was going to try and start shit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 11:37 PM, J.J. Merrick > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This happened last night in the county next to mine > here > > > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > Tennessee. > > > > > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > video on Youtube already has half-a-million views and > it > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > blowing > > > > > > > > up > > > > > > > > > > > LiveLeak... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.wkrn.com/story/22770235/dui-checkpoint-video-youtube > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crazy what times have come to! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -J.J. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > | J.J. 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