He hasn't responded about the brown shooting either On Sep 11, 2014 1:37 PM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > So, let me get this straight. > > When you thought that she provoked him, you stated that she was 'asking for > trouble' and that if she did not want to get punched she should not have > 'attacked' him. > > Now, when it is suggested that he may have been the one who 'attacked' her > first by spitting on her (twice) we need to not draw conclusions without > complete knowledge of their long-term past relationship? That it may have > been a drunken, crazed moment for them both? That this was all for the > 'makeup sex'? Now you don't want to be 'on the outside looking in'? > > For someone who does not want to make any assumptions, you sure do make a > big one in assuming she has 'got over' the 'event'. What are you basing > that on? > > Their lives were ruined the instant that he punched her in the face. TMZ > did not throw the punch. Neither the NFL nor the Ravens threw the punch. > Ray Rice did. And attempting to blame any other entity besides Ray Rice for > the fallout for his actions is pathetic. > > When you thought she was 'looking for trouble' you had no problem passing > judgement on her and her actions, but now that it appears that he was the > instigator, we need to hold off judgement. And you were complaining about a > double standard. This just goes to show how much of a misogynist you really > are. > > > > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Rick Faircloth <[email protected] > > > wrote: > > > > > I don't think any of us can make draw any conclusions without complete > > knowledge > > of their long-term past relationship and this recent revelation. We > > can't know whether > > this is just a drunken, crazed moment for them both, or whether there > > more to it. > > > > Maybe the woman is suffering from "Stockholm Syndrome." It's also > > possible that > > she's just someone for whom this wasn't a big deal. Perhaps they beat on > > each other > > for awhile then enjoy the "makeup sex" that ensues. I know that sounds > > crazy, but > > there are all different types of people in this world. It's hard to > > judge people's lives > > when I don't walk in their shoes in circumstances like these. As odd as > > it seems, > > the fiance apparently got over the event. > > > > Like has been expressed previous on this forum, I just hate to know that > > their lives > > have been destroyed when, apparently, they had gotten past the incident > > and moved > > on. Now the video shows up and all hell breaks loose for them. What > > they've built > > together since now is in ruins. > > > > TMZ should be held liable for using this video for their own enrichment, > > without > > regard for the consequences concerning the lives TMZ, themselves, abuse > for > > their own gain. > > > > It's just a difficult situation to understand and even more difficult to > > discuss > > from the outside looking in. > > > > > > On 9/10/2014 8:39 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > If this is indeed accurate (he allegedly spat on her..twice...before > the > > > altercation), will it change your position that she was 'looking for > > > trouble'? > > > > > > > > > http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11503496/ray-rice-spat-face-fiancee-twice-punch-lines-reports > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Rick Faircloth < > > [email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> They *both* were victims of assault. > > >> > > >> If the woman had assaulted a smaller, weaker woman like she did Ray > > >> Rice, and did the > > >> same amount of physical damage to the smaller, weaker woman, should > she > > >> be charged with assault? > > >> > > >> Of course she should. > > >> > > >> The both did things that were wrong. > > >> > > >> > > >> On 9/9/2014 9:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > >>> I am not, and I feel safe in assuming you know that - maybe I am > giving > > >> you > > >>> to much credit. > > >>> > > >>> I am trying to see if disproportionate response is something Rick > would > > >>> ever consider. > > >>> > > >>> To be honest, I had very little respect for Rick before this whole > > thread > > >>> started, and his response do not really surprise me. But, Gel, I am > > >>> flabbergasted by some of your comments - both here and on Facebook. > It > > >> just > > >>> does not jive with the impression I have gotten over the years - > > >>> apparently, I am not the only one. > > >>> > > >>> I will say this one more time. There is NOTHING she did to deserve > > being > > >>> punched in the face and knocked unconscious. His life was never in > > >> danger. > > >>> His response was way over the top. Can we please stop painting him as > > the > > >>> victim? > > >>> On Sep 9, 2014 9:00 PM, "Vivec" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> You are comparing an adult woman to a 12 year old child? > > >>>> Do you think women are like little kids unable to take > responsibility > > >> for > > >>>> their actions, and know right from wrong? > > >>>> > > >>>> Dropping the charges doesn't mean that she didn't do anything, > > >>>> it means that the lawyers decided it wasn't worth it to prosecute, > and > > >> they > > >>>> had a stronger case against him. > > >>>> > > >>>> On 9 September 2014 20:47, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Both initially were charged with assault. Her charges were later > > >> dropped. > > >>>>> He was then charged with aggravated assault. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I wonder, if this was a 12 year old child who he hit, would you > guys > > >>>> think > > >>>>> they were also 'looking for trouble'? > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372521 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
