So much for the 2 party system ehh...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Dawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 9:10 PM
Subject: Re: Moron?


>
http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?section=pol&document=index&dir=par&lang=
e&textonly=false
>
> Standing Parties in the House of Commons
> Liberal
> Canadian Alliance
> Bloc Qu�b�cois
> N.D.P.
> Progressive Conservative
>
> What is a political party?
>
> The Act does not attempt to define or describe a political party.
Generally
> speaking, a political party is a group of people who together establish a
> constitution, elect a leader and other officers, and endorse candidates
for
> election to the House of Commons.
>
> The Act uses the following terms:
>
> eligible party: a party that has applied for registration under the Act,
but
> has yet to fulfill some of the conditions to become a registered party
>
> registered party: a party is registered under the Act if it succeeds in
> endorsing 50 or more confirmed candidates in a general election and meets
> certain other conditions
>
> suspended party: a registered party whose registration has been suspended
> because it has failed to maintain, at a subsequent election, the
conditions
> to keep its status as a registered party.
>
> Registered Political Parties
> ============================
> Bloc Qu�b�cois
> Canadian Action Party
> Canadian Reform Conservative Alliance (Canadian Alliance)
> Communist Party of Canada
> Liberal Party of Canada
> Marijuana Party
> Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada
> Natural Law Party of Canada
> New Democratic Party
> Progressive Conservative Party of Canada
> The Green Party of Canada
>
> Eligible Political Party
> ========================
> Christian Heritage Party
> National Alternative Party of Canada
> The Ontario Party of Canada
>
> From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Moron?
> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 20:59:39 -0600
>
> Ok, post the link.  Objective?  I didn't see any partisan bias on the page
I
> sent, only party names addressed and URLs?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 5:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Moron?
>
>
>  > Elections Canada is a much more reliable and objective source.
>  >
>  > larry
>  >
>  > >http://www.altstuff.com/federal.htm
>  > >
>  > >Thats where I got the parties from.
>  > >
>  > >----- Original Message -----
>  > >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 10:24 PM
>  > >Subject: Re: Moron?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >>  No that was done in the last few federal elections, with Canadians
>  > >>  sweeping the Conservative Party under the rug, and letting the
other
>  > >>  parties, ie the National Alliance, humiliate themselves, mind you
>  > >>  Stockton Day was even more clueless than the present nominee of the
>  > >>  Republican party for the next presidential election.
>  > >>
>  > >>  As for the number of political parties, I've always followed the
>  > >>  rules of Parliamentary Procedure for the Canadian House of Commons,
>  > >>
>  > >>  "How to register a political party
>  > >>
>  > >>  Forming a political party and registering a political party are
>  > >>  completely different, in that there is no legislation regulating
the
>  > >>  formation of political parties. However, once a party is formed it
>  > >>  may apply to be registered. After its registration is approved, the
>  > >>  party will then be governed by rules under the Canada Elections
Act.
>  > >>
>  > >>  Applications for registration must be filed with the Chief
Electoral
>  > >>  Officer for verification and approval at least 60 days before the
>  > >>  writs are issued. Once approved, a party earns the right to be
>  > >>  included in the allocation of broadcasting time, to issue official
>  > >>  tax receipts for donations, and to have its name included on the
>  > >>  election ballot.
>  > >>
>  > >>  It is important to note that official registration can take effect
>  > >>  only the day after the new party officially nominates candidates in
>  > >>  at least 50 electoral districts at a general election. When an
>  > >>  application is filed less than 60 days before the writs are issued,
>  > >>  registration cannot take effect for that general election.
>  > >>
>  > >>  To maintain its registration, a registered political party must
>  > >>  nominate candidates in at least 50 electoral districts at a general
>  > >>  election. Under the law, failure to do so must result in
>  > >>  deregistration of that party by the Chief Electoral Officer.
>  > >>
>  > >>  There were 13 political parties registered before the 36th federal
>  > >>  election was called, and four parties had been accepted for
>  > >>  registration."
>  > >>
>  > >>  Not sure where you get 37 parties from. But these are just the
>  > >>  official ones - parties that were able to nomimate people to run in
>  > >>  at least 50 ridings.
>  > >>
>  > >>  larry
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>
>  > >>  >Ok.  It's secret Candian speak.  He said Liberals, but it was
secret
> code
>  > >>  >for the Liberal Party.  So, what are the codes for the other
> "Liberal"
>  > >>  >parties in Canada.  Does Ultra-Liberal mean the New Democratic
> Party?
>  > >Just
>  > >>  >seems like Larry is trying to bend his words, and restate what
they
> guy
>  > >said
>  > >>  >to fit his argument.
>  > >>  >
>  > >>  >I did some checking and there are about 37 different Federtal
> political
>  > >>  >parties in Canada.  It seems as though there are several
> Conservative
>  > >>  >parties there...I nosed around a few websites.  I liked the
> Christian
>  > >>  >Heritage party site....of course the Marijuana party website and
>  > >>  >Marxist-Leninist Party website were interesting in their own
right.
>  > >There
>  > >>  >is even a Libertarian party in Canada.  While Liberals (and I
don't
> mean
>  > >the
>  > >>  >Liberal Party) may be the majority in Canada, I don't think that
you
> can
>  > >>  >just sweep the conservative parties under the rug as Larry wishes
> too.
>  > >>  >
>  > >>  >
>  > >>  >----- Original Message -----
>  > >>  >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >>  >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >>  >Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 4:44 PM
>  > >>  >Subject: Re: Moron?
>  > >>  >
>  > >>  >
>  > >>  >>  Eric,
>  > >>  >>
>  > >>  >>  Its a Canadian thing. He wouldn't understand.
>  > >>  >>
>  > >>  >>  And now for the traditional Winnipeg greeting,
>  > >>  >>
>  > >>  >>  How 'bout them Bombers eh?
>  > >>  >>
>  > >>  >>  larry
>  > >>  >>
>  > >>  >>  >But I agree with Larry, he said Liberals, and meant the
Liberal
>  > >Party.
>  > >>  >>  >
>  > >>  >>  >e
>  > >>  >>  >
>  > >>  >>  >From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >  > >>  >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > >>  >>  >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >>  >>  >Subject: Re: Moron?
>  > >>  >>  >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 08:47:26 -0600
>  > >>  >>  >
>  > >>  >>  >Doesn't sound like he is referring to the "Liberal Party"  is
he
> were
>  > >you
>  > >>  >>  >think he would have said "the Liberal Party", not Liberals.
>  > >>  >>  >----- Original Message -----
>  > >>  >>  >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >>  >>  >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >>  >>  >Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 6:21 AM
>  > >>  >>  >Subject: Re: Moron?
>  > >>  >>  >
>  > >>  >>  >
>  > >>  >>  >  > He was referring to the LIberal Party. He was doing his
job
> as
>  > >>  >  > >  > Foreign Relations minister (placating the US), and he is
> also
>  > >running
>  > >>  >>  >  > in the forthcoming leadership election.  It doesn't
> invalidate
>  > >what
>  > >>  >>  >  > I've been saying.
>  > >>  >>  >  >
>  > >>  >>  >  > larry
>  > >>  >>  >  >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >54po0rfff2vb23Larry,
>  > >>  >>  >  > >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >I guess the whole country tilts to the left.  So I shall
> say
> she
>  > >is
>  > >>  >a
>  > >>  >>  >member
>  > >>  >>  >  > >of "a" left wing party.  Doesn't matter how left they
are,
> or it
>  > >>  >they
>  > >>  >>  >are
>  > >>  >>  >  > >the most or least left.  My statement that she belongs to
> the
>  > >>  >liberal
>  > >>  >>  >left
>  > >>  >>  >  > >is accurate.  I based my statement off of one of the many
>  > >articles
>  > >>  >>  >  > >avaialable on the Toronto Star.
>  > >>  >>  >  > >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>From the Toronto Star:
>  > >>  >>  >  > >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >"Earlier Friday, Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham
said
> the
>  > >>  >reported
>  > >>  >>  >  > >remarks won't sour Canada-U.S. relations."
>  > >>  >>  >  > >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >"Graham said he "didn't accept the premise" that the
>  > >relationship
>  > >>  >has
>  > >>  >  > >  > >worsened significantly under a perception of
> anti-Americanism
>  > >among
>  > >>  >some
>  > >>  >  > >  > >Liberals."
>  > >>  >  > >  > >
>  > >>  >  > >  > >So obviously there are people there who are not liberal
>  > >otherwise he
>  > >>  >>  >would
>  > >>  >>  >  > >have substituted Canadians instead of liberals.
>  > >>  >>  >  > >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >----- Original Message -----
>  > >>  >>  >  > >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >>  >>  >  > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >>  >>  >  > >Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 6:13 PM
>  > >>  >>  >  > >Subject: Re: Moron?
>  > >>  >>  >  > >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  ROFL!
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  You may want to check on the name of the Party, its
> called
>  > >the
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  Liberal Party. Its a center moderate party. The left
> wing
> in
>  > >>  >Canada
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  is the New Democratic Party.  The right wing is
> represented
>  > >by
>  > >>  >the
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  National Alliance party (and the remnants of the
> Progressive
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  Conservative party). All over the place is the Bloc
>  > >Quebecois.
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  You need to get the facts correct. The LIberals are
> middle of
>  > >the
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  road, more like Democrats yes, but by no means what
you
> would
>  > >>  >call
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  liberal, to Canadians. Mind you compared to most
> political
>  > >>  >attitudes
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  in the US, the National Alliance Party is more akin to
> the
>  > >>  >Democrats.
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  The only groups that are akin to American
conservatives
> are
>  > >>  >generally
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  considered to be on the far right fringe in Canada.
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  Another case of Prime Minister Poutine again I guess.
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  larry
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >Larry,
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >You should mention Canadian "Liberal" perceptiveness.
> After
>  > >all
>  > >>  >he
>  > >>  >>  >is a
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >member of the left wing party in Canada.  There was
> outrage
>  > >>  >>  >expressed
>  > >>  >>  >by
>  > >>  >>  >  > >the
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >right in Canada.  Nothing more than politics.
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >----- Original Message -----
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:56 PM
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >Subject: RE: Moron?
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  just typical Canadian perceptiveness. The aide
will
>  > >probably
>  > >>  >>  >resign or
>  > >>  >>  >  > >be
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  fired, but probably will be rehired in a short
> while,
>  > >since
>  > >>  >he
>  > >>  >>  >  > >probably
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  looks like a hero to many Canadians. Bush is not
at
> all
>  > >>  >popular
>  > >>  >>  >  > >outside of
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  the US.
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  Besides if the US wants to complain, then the Bush
>  > >>  >administration
>  > >>  >>  >  > >should
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  clean up its own house first.
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  larry
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  --
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  Larry C. Lyons
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  ColdFusion/Web Developer
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
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>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  tel:   (703) 393-7930
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>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  --
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  > -----Original Message-----
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  > From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 1:38 PM
>  > >>  >  > >  > >>  >>  > To: CF-Community
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  > Subject: Moron?
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  > Senior aide to Canadian P.M. reportedly called
> Dubya a
>  > >>  >"moron".
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  > http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q1B053882
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  >
>  > >>  >>  >  > >>  >>  > -Ben
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