>So much for the 2 party system ehh...
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Eric Dawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 9:10 PM
>Subject: Re: Moron?
>
>
>>
>http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?section=pol&document=index&dir=par&lang=
>e&textonly=false
>>
>> Standing Parties in the House of Commons
>> Liberal
>> Canadian Alliance
>> Bloc Qu�b�cois
>> N.D.P.
>> Progressive Conservative
>>
>> What is a political party?
>>
>> The Act does not attempt to define or describe a political party.
>Generally
>> speaking, a political party is a group of people who together establish a
>> constitution, elect a leader and other officers, and endorse candidates
>for
>> election to the House of Commons.
>>
>> The Act uses the following terms:
>>
>> eligible party: a party that has applied for registration under the Act,
>but
>> has yet to fulfill some of the conditions to become a registered party
>>
>> registered party: a party is registered under the Act if it succeeds in
>> endorsing 50 or more confirmed candidates in a general election and meets
>> certain other conditions
>>
>> suspended party: a registered party whose registration has been suspended
>> because it has failed to maintain, at a subsequent election, the
>conditions
>> to keep its status as a registered party.
>>
>> Registered Political Parties
>> ============================
>> Bloc Qu�b�cois
>> Canadian Action Party
>> Canadian Reform Conservative Alliance (Canadian Alliance)
>> Communist Party of Canada
>> Liberal Party of Canada
>> Marijuana Party
>> Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada
>> Natural Law Party of Canada
>> New Democratic Party
>> Progressive Conservative Party of Canada
>> The Green Party of Canada
>>
>> Eligible Political Party
>> ========================
>> Christian Heritage Party
>> National Alternative Party of Canada
>> The Ontario Party of Canada
>>
>> From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Moron?
>> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 20:59:39 -0600
>>
>> Ok, post the link. Objective? I didn't see any partisan bias on the page
>I
>> sent, only party names addressed and URLs?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 5:31 PM
>> Subject: Re: Moron?
>>
>>
>> > Elections Canada is a much more reliable and objective source.
>> >
>> > larry
>> >
>> > >http://www.altstuff.com/federal.htm
>> > >
>> > >Thats where I got the parties from.
>> > >
>> > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 10:24 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: Moron?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> No that was done in the last few federal elections, with Canadians
> > > >> sweeping the Conservative Party under the rug, and letting the
>other
>> > >> parties, ie the National Alliance, humiliate themselves, mind you
>> > >> Stockton Day was even more clueless than the present nominee of the
>> > >> Republican party for the next presidential election.
>> > >>
>> > >> As for the number of political parties, I've always followed the
>> > >> rules of Parliamentary Procedure for the Canadian House of Commons,
>> > >>
>> > >> "How to register a political party
>> > >>
>> > >> Forming a political party and registering a political party are
>> > >> completely different, in that there is no legislation regulating
>the
>> > >> formation of political parties. However, once a party is formed it
>> > >> may apply to be registered. After its registration is approved, the
>> > >> party will then be governed by rules under the Canada Elections
>Act.
>> > >>
>> > >> Applications for registration must be filed with the Chief
>Electoral
>> > >> Officer for verification and approval at least 60 days before the
> > > >> writs are issued. Once approved, a party earns the right to be
> > > >> included in the allocation of broadcasting time, to issue official
>> > >> tax receipts for donations, and to have its name included on the
>> > >> election ballot.
>> > >>
>> > >> It is important to note that official registration can take effect
>> > >> only the day after the new party officially nominates candidates in
>> > >> at least 50 electoral districts at a general election. When an
>> > >> application is filed less than 60 days before the writs are issued,
>> > >> registration cannot take effect for that general election.
>> > >>
>> > >> To maintain its registration, a registered political party must
>> > >> nominate candidates in at least 50 electoral districts at a general
>> > >> election. Under the law, failure to do so must result in
>> > >> deregistration of that party by the Chief Electoral Officer.
>> > >>
>> > >> There were 13 political parties registered before the 36th federal
>> > >> election was called, and four parties had been accepted for
>> > >> registration."
>> > >>
>> > >> Not sure where you get 37 parties from. But these are just the
>> > >> official ones - parties that were able to nomimate people to run in
>> > >> at least 50 ridings.
>> > >>
>> > >> larry
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> >Ok. It's secret Candian speak. He said Liberals, but it was
>secret
>> code
>> > >> >for the Liberal Party. So, what are the codes for the other
>> "Liberal"
>> > >> >parties in Canada. Does Ultra-Liberal mean the New Democratic
>> Party?
>> > >Just
>> > >> >seems like Larry is trying to bend his words, and restate what
>they
>> guy
>> > >said
>> > >> >to fit his argument.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >I did some checking and there are about 37 different Federtal
>> political
>> > >> >parties in Canada. It seems as though there are several
>> Conservative
>> > >> >parties there...I nosed around a few websites. I liked the
>> Christian
>> > >> >Heritage party site....of course the Marijuana party website and
>> > >> >Marxist-Leninist Party website were interesting in their own
>right.
>> > >There
>> > >> >is even a Libertarian party in Canada. While Liberals (and I
>don't
>> mean
>> > >the
>> > >> >Liberal Party) may be the majority in Canada, I don't think that
>you
>> can
>> > >> >just sweep the conservative parties under the rug as Larry wishes
>> too.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >> >Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 4:44 PM
>> > >> >Subject: Re: Moron?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Eric,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Its a Canadian thing. He wouldn't understand.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> And now for the traditional Winnipeg greeting,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> How 'bout them Bombers eh?
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> larry
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> >But I agree with Larry, he said Liberals, and meant the
>Liberal
>> > >Party.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >e
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > > >> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >> >> >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >> >> >Subject: Re: Moron?
>> > >> >> >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 08:47:26 -0600
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >Doesn't sound like he is referring to the "Liberal Party" is
>he
>> were
>> > >you
>> > >> >> >think he would have said "the Liberal Party", not Liberals.
>> > >> >> >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >> >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >> >> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 6:21 AM
>> > >> >> >Subject: Re: Moron?
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > > He was referring to the LIberal Party. He was doing his
>job
>> as
>> > >> > > > > Foreign Relations minister (placating the US), and he is
>> also
>> > >running
>> > >> >> > > in the forthcoming leadership election. It doesn't
>> invalidate
>> > >what
> > > >> >> > > I've been saying.
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > larry
> > > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > >54po0rfff2vb23Larry,
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > >I guess the whole country tilts to the left. So I shall
>> say
>> she
>> > >is
>> > >> >a
>> > >> >> >member
>> > >> >> > > >of "a" left wing party. Doesn't matter how left they
>are,
>> or it
>> > >> >they
>> > >> >> >are
>> > >> >> > > >the most or least left. My statement that she belongs to
>> the
>> > >> >liberal
>> > >> >> >left
>> > >> >> > > >is accurate. I based my statement off of one of the many
>> > >articles
>> > >> >> > > >avaialable on the Toronto Star.
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > >>From the Toronto Star:
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > >"Earlier Friday, Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham
>said
>> the
>> > >> >reported
>> > >> >> > > >remarks won't sour Canada-U.S. relations."
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > >"Graham said he "didn't accept the premise" that the
>> > >relationship
>> > >> >has
>> > >> > > > > >worsened significantly under a perception of
>> anti-Americanism
>> > >among
>> > >> >some
>> > >> > > > > >Liberals."
>> > >> > > > > >
>> > >> > > > > >So obviously there are people there who are not liberal
>> > >otherwise he
>> > >> >> >would
>> > >> >> > > >have substituted Canadians instead of liberals.
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >> > > >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >> >> > > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >> >> > > >Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 6:13 PM
>> > >> >> > > >Subject: Re: Moron?
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > >
>> > >> >> > > >> ROFL!
>> > >> >> > > >>
>> > >> >> > > >> You may want to check on the name of the Party, its
>> called
>> > >the
>> > >> >> > > >> Liberal Party. Its a center moderate party. The left
>> wing
>> in
>> > >> >Canada
>> > >> >> > > >> is the New Democratic Party. The right wing is
>> represented
>> > >by
>> > >> >the
>> > >> >> > > >> National Alliance party (and the remnants of the
>> Progressive
>> > >> >> > > >> Conservative party). All over the place is the Bloc
>> > >Quebecois.
>> > >> >> > > >>
>> > >> >> > > >> You need to get the facts correct. The LIberals are
>> middle of
>> > >the
>> > >> >> > > >> road, more like Democrats yes, but by no means what
>you
>> would
>> > >> >call
>> > >> >> > > >> liberal, to Canadians. Mind you compared to most
>> political
>> > >> >attitudes
>> > >> >> > > >> in the US, the National Alliance Party is more akin to
>> the
>> > >> >Democrats.
>> > >> >> > > >> The only groups that are akin to American
>conservatives
>> are
>> > >> >generally
>> > >> >> > > >> considered to be on the far right fringe in Canada.
>> > >> >> > > >>
>> > >> >> > > >> Another case of Prime Minister Poutine again I guess.
>> > >> >> > > >>
>> > >> >> > > >> larry
>> > >> >> > > >>
>> > >> >> > > >> >Larry,
>> > >> >> > > >> >
>> > >> >> > > >> >You should mention Canadian "Liberal" perceptiveness.
>> After
>> > >all
>> > >> >he
>> > >> >> >is a
>> > >> >> > > >> >member of the left wing party in Canada. There was
>> outrage
>> > >> >> >expressed
>> > >> >> >by
>> > >> >> > > >the
>> > >> >> > > >> >right in Canada. Nothing more than politics.
>> > >> >> > > >> >----- Original Message -----
>> > >> >> > > >> >From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >> >> > > >> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > >> >> > > >> >Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:56 PM
>> > >> >> > > >> >Subject: RE: Moron?
>> > >> >> > > >> >
>> > >> >> > > >> >
>> > >> >> > > >> >> just typical Canadian perceptiveness. The aide
>will
>> > >probably
>> > >> >> >resign or
>> > >> >> > > >be
>> > >> >> > > >> >> fired, but probably will be rehired in a short
>> while,
>> > >since
>> > >> >he
>> > >> >> > > >probably
>> > >> >> > > >> >> looks like a hero to many Canadians. Bush is not
>at
>> all
>> > >> >popular
> > > >> >> > > >outside of
>> > >> >> > > >> >> the US.
>> > >> >> > > >> >>
>> > >> >> > > >> >> Besides if the US wants to complain, then the Bush
>> > >> >administration
>> > >> >> > > >should
>> > >> >> > > >> >> clean up its own house first.
>> > >> >> > > >> >>
>> > >> >> > > >> >> larry
>> > >> >> > > >> >>
>> > >> >> > > >> >> --
>> > >> >> > > >> >> Larry C. Lyons
>> > >> >> > > >> >> ColdFusion/Web Developer
>> > >> >> > > >> >> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
>> > >> >> > > >> >> EBStor.com
>> > >> >> > > >> >> 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
>> > >> >> > > >> >> Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
>> > >> >> > > >> >> tel: (703) 393-7930
>> > >> >> > > >> >> fax: (703) 393-2659
>> > >> >> > > >> >> Web: http://www.ebstor.com
>> > >> >> > > >> >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >> >> > > >> >> Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
>> > >> >> > > >> >> --
>> > >> >> > > >> >>
>> > >> >> > > >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >> >> > > >> >> > From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > >> >> > > >> >> > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 1:38 PM
>> > >> > > > > >> >> > To: CF-Community
>> > >> >> > > >> >> > Subject: Moron?
>> > >> >> > > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > > >> >> > Senior aide to Canadian P.M. reportedly called
>> Dubya a
>> > >> >"moron".
>> > >> >> > > >> >> > http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q1B053882
>> > >> >> > > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > > >> >> > -Ben
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