So Adam, what you're saying is that its perfectly ok for someone you work 
with to harass coworkers, because it may cause the employer a bit of 
inconvenience.

 From everything he's said, talking with the person has already been tried. 
If talking with management and HR is ineffectual, then what's left? Begging 
the guy to further harass him. What's the difference between what this nut 
case is doing and someone else getting harassed over race or their ethnic 
background.

He's talked with the guy, talked with HR and talked with management. 
Nothing has worked. No one should have to put up with this sort of 
harassment. From the sounds of it, if the company is not or will not 
provide some sort of remedy, he should talk with the provincial department 
of labour, they have mediation services for exactly this situation. And if 
that does not work, they can enforce a remedy.

regards,
larry

At 08:39 AM 3/14/2003 -0500, you wrote:
> > The legal system has become increasingly intolerant of abusive behavior in
>the workplace.
>
>This is certainly one approach to take, but it will only serve to damage an
>employer who supports many families by providing jobs.
>
>If you've already talked to your HR department, why not take the guy aside
>and calmly try (just try) to appeal to his sense of logic:
>
>* If you were the HR chief who was responsible for maintaining a
>non-threatening work environment, how would you handle you?  I mean
>really -- and think practically for a moment; this is not the Supreme Court.
>
>* If you offered to our employees tickets to an event where you were
>preaching this stuff on stage, how many seats would you fill?
>
>* Do you think saying this stuff is sustainable over time in this workplace?
>Any workplace?
>
>* Do you ever put yourself in the shoes of someone who might be offended by
>what you're saying, regardless of the fact that you think what you're saying
>is true?
>
>* If you still think it's okay to talk like this, why don't you take a
>recording of yourself down to the HR department and ask them what they
>think?
>
>There's a chance you can reach him and turn his heart if you appeal to him
>in such a way that he is challenged to solve his own problem, but if you
>confront and accuse him, he'll most likely put up a barrier, and he may even
>become violent.
>
>Also, your HR department might appear to be doing nothing, but they might be
>quietly documenting his case for action.  This takes time and must be
>handled discreetly, hence the apparent silence from them.
>
>Best of luck, my friend.
>
>Respectfully,
>
>Adam Phillip Churvis
>Team Macromedia Volunteer for ColdFusion
>
>Advanced Intensive ColdFusion MX Training
>ColdFusion MX Master Class:
>March 31, 2003 - April 4, 2003
>http://www.ColdFusionTraining.com
>
>
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