I refuted them all, and await your response. Tim
-----Original Message----- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 4:24 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: woo hoo Well, I sent an email with about four links showing that legally a restaurant is a public place. And even Philip Morris says smoking in public places warrants regulation. I assume that is still kicking around cyberspace and will show up in a while. Dana On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 13:39:41 -0400, Heald, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By what rational do you claim the right to tell the owner that he must > not > allow smoking? What facts, legal, historical, constitutional or > otherwise, > make you think that the government should have this ability? > > Timothy Heald > Information Systems Specialist > Overseas Security Advisory Council > U.S. Department of State > 571.345.2235 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:41 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: woo hoo > > > well, all ideology aside, i was thinking about this. Using my local > restaurants as a sample I have 2 Vietnamese restaurants (NS) one Thai > restaurant (NS) one Mexican "family" restaurant (S) one Carrows, a chain > a lot like Denny's (S) and a Cici's (unknown). The Carrows is a chain? > Does that have something to do with it? Most of the smokers I see here > are old guys that sit at the counter and drink coffee and flirt with the > waitresses, possibly to get out of the house. I doubt the place is making > a lot of money on them. There is a flaw in my hyothesis though, which is > that one I am not at the counter because of the smokers, I might not > notice people in the smoking section. At the Mexican restaurant, which is > a red-checked plastic table cloth kind of place, I do not see any > particular pattern to smokers except that they are mostly male. However, > the owner smokes and that is probably the key fact. > > But in my own particular case, it isnt really a matter of just pass on. I > deal with the restaurants withing walking distance and if I really want > huevos rancheros for example both options involve sitting at the far end > of non-smoking. Until today. Albuquerque did just pass a smoking ban for > restaurants (not bars) which is a guess a reasonable compromise... though > it might be nice to go to a bar some time. > > Dana > > > Dana > > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:09:25 -0500, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> Dana, I think you are 100% right in your attitude. The question is then >> - why do we need to legislate this? If a restaurant loses business >> because there are more non-smokers than smokers, they don't need a law >> telling them what to do - all they need is common sense. >> >> -rc >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, >>> 2003 9:02 AM >>> To: CF-Community >>> Subject: Re: woo hoo >>> >>> >>> First of all, the way I nomally notice that a restaurant allows smoking >>> is when someone next to me lights up. >>> >>> Better restaurants tend to be non-smoking anyway, but there are two >>> within walking distance of my house that used to allow smoking. I don't >>> know if they will be necessarily losing profit though; I guess you are >>> assuming that the smokers just won't go any more. But where *would* >>> they go? I think that if they want to eat out they will still go to >>> restaurants, but smoke after they leave, or before they come. And I on >>> the other hand will be more likely to frequent those restaurants, >>> along, presumably, with the other non-smokers in the neighborhood. >>> >>> Dana >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
