Your first link is from Australia, hold no weight in the US. The second is from Canada, and from what I can tell has to do with hate crimes, looking for the connection.
Not sure if you read the third link at all but they found that she was on PRIVATE not PUBLIC property, and dismissed the case against her: "The appellant, Rochelle Weaver, was convicted of drinking in public, Ark. Code Ann. 5-71-212(c) (Repl. 1993), sentenced to thirty days in jail, and ordered to pay a $100.00 fine. The jail sentence and all but twenty-five dollars of the fine were suspended for one year. Appellant essentially claims that the trial court should have dismissed her case because she was not drinking in a "public place" within the meaning of the drinking-in-public statute. We agree with her argument and reverse and dismiss. In so holding, it is unnecessary for us to reach appellant's remaining argument that the statute is unconstitutionally vague." Your fourth link is not specific enough to win this argument in the least. The only real property it mentions by name is a parking lot. It does say that the property does not have to be entirely for public use, implying that it at least must be partially for public use. Public being government, or community funds. You still have not backed up the comment: "To your other points, I think you will find that a public place is defined in law as one that is frequented by the general public and thus a public place would include streets, grocery stores, restaurants and some office buildings." Phillip Morris says it supports some regulation on public smoking, that's great I have no problem with that. I have a problem with people defining private property as public. Please do at your convenience. Timothy Heald Information Systems Specialist Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2235 -----Original Message----- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:20 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: woo hoo well since you don't include the post you are replying to... I don't know if this is addressed to me. If so I take great exception to being called either fascist (especially misspelled) or communist, thank you. These are not names that should be thrown around lightly. To your other points, I think you will find that a public place is defined in law as one that is frequented by the general public and thus a public place would include streets, grocery stores, restaurants and some office buildings. http://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/litter/litterlaws/litterlaws.htm#public http://www.acjnet.org/youthfaq/define.html http://courts.state.ar.us/opinions/1996a/960930/cr96-472.txt http://www.surfsidebeach.org/01-0457.HTM Heck, Philip Morris thinks regulation of smoking in public places is warranted. http://www.pmusa.com/policies_practices/public_place_smoking.asp Your analogy with the sodomy laws just does not work as they were in a bedromm as I understand it, as place that is truly private, and minding their own business. They were not affecting anyone else at all. Dana On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 13:40:45 -0400, Timothy Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Collectivist. Communist. Facist. That is what I get from your > statement. > > Screw the individual. Never mind that rights are supposed to come before > and above the whims of the masses. A public place in one that the > goevernment owns. Public does not mean where one or more of us gathers, > or you could legislate smoking in the home. Do you then support the ban > on sodomy which prevents gay sex? There were two men engaged on private > property. Isn't this the same thing? > > Tim > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
