>Why must the right wing constantly and always want to control others? Funny, this is generally a left wing issue. Usually you will find democrats backing this, and citing health reasons to do so. Don't get me wrong, the republicans have plenty of other bad ideas :)
Timothy Heald Information Systems Specialist Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2235 -----Original Message----- From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:44 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: woo hoo Our Mayor is pushing hard for a total ban on smoking in eateries. The main reason is his campaign contributors. He almost got it passed, when we have a city council election and 7 members were turned out and the new members will not go along with it. It seems that about half of the restaurants in town are by the owners' choosing are already smoke-free, as are most of the fast (spell that junk) food places. He quickly switched gears and said he would bring it up for a public referendum, That is getting nowhere fast as well, because the newbie council members have rejected the call for an election as well. It seems that the restaurant association feels the public has plenty of choices for places to dine, and they are perfectly able to choose the smoke-free, or the divided smoking/non-smoking restaurants. This is a city where two (now former) city councilmen, three members of the local community college board, and several members of a local school district are under indictment for official corruption, bribery. etc. It seems that the medical lobby is biting themselves ever since they railroaded through (after failing three times) a law to fluoridate the municipal water supply, using the "cavities in children" argument. Then they recently started another campaign to try to get public funding for free dental care for the "many children with cavities." When they were rebutted with the argument, "Why hasn't the fluoride treatment removed all that risk, as you claimed it would a couple of years ago." They did not have an answer, and now there is a movement to repeal that law as well, because it was a lie to begin with. Our atmospheric environment is right on the edge of being in non-compliance with EPA regulations due to smoke from Mexico and Central America in the spring, and pollution from refineries in the Houston area (200 miles away) that cigarette smoke is in reality a non-issue, being so insignificant to the overall air quality situation. Our power company has just won approval to build an additional coal-fired power generation plant, with the claim that it will not add to the deterioration of the air quality. Geez! When will the truth ever be told? Again, I still believe it should be the restaurant owner's sole decision, based on his own market analysis to run a smoke-free or smoking/non-smoking restaurant, and allow the market decide to either patronize them or not patronize them. Why must the right wing constantly and always want to control others? Why are non-smokers so stupid that they cannot decide to not patronize an establishment if smoking is so offensive to them, and there are plenty of choices to dine in the atmosphere they choose? And I am a non-smoker/non-drinker. ====================================== Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 ====================================== If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nagy, Daniel J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 11:48 AM Subject: RE: woo hoo | they are -not- public. they can cater to whomever they wish. if a restaurant | owner does not want to permit smokers, or if the public want should lend him | more profit and he decides he wants this, so be it. a restaurant owner can | throw out whatever trash he doesn't want in his establishment. it's -his-. | | if you take great exception to that, dont : | | * Walk down a public street. Carbon Monoxide is terrible for you. | * Drink beer, milk or eat red meat. These promote fat growth and | cholesterol. | * Use a cell phone, or be near an electrical tower. Brain cancer for | everyone. | * on and on and on. | | if -you- don't want to be around smokers, that's fine and dandy. but who are | you to make demands of the owner of a private business, and what right does | the government have to forbid the use of a legal product on their premesis. | if you don't like the menu, you don't have any right to demand a change. get | up and walk your ass out into the street. just watch out for that carbon | monoxide. | | | -----Original Message----- | From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 12:43 PM | To: CF-Community | Subject: RE: woo hoo | | | Restaurants are public as well. If you want customers that is. | | And I take great exception to anybody killing me, slowly or quickly. | | -------------- | Ian Skinner | Web Programmer | BloodSource | Sacramento, CA | | | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
