That's a whole different topic.

Timothy Heald
Information Systems Specialist
Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State
571.345.2235


-----Original Message-----
From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 3:27 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: woo hoo


Another way of looking at this is, if the owner feels strongly about 
allowing smoking he can become a private club.

But a restaurant is a public place. That is why you are not allowed to 
discriminate in whom you serve.

Dana

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 13:49:06 -0400, Marwan Saidi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Actually, they are NOT public. A public place, public being defined as 
> owned by the people, are places such as parks, the DMV, National Forests, 
> etc.
>
> Any restaurant is a PRIVATE establishment, owned by an individual 
> business entity (individual, partnership, corporation, etc.). This 
> PRIVATE establishment CHOOSES to allow a WILLING public to come in and 
> eat. As has been said many times, the government should have no more 
> right to tell private businesses who may or may not partake in a legal 
> activity in their restaurant than they should be able to tell said 
> restaurant what hours to be open or what to serve on the menu.
>
> So that you understand my perspective, the substance of the law does not 
> bother me. I have smoked for 14 years, but I quit 2 weeks ago today. It 
> is not easy, and now I am able to resist one of the greatest cravings 
> (smoking immediately after ordering and immediately after eating) because 
> I don't have to smell others doing it.
>
> Having said that, I have a HUGE problem with the government legislating 
> the options at a private business. I realize that in Florida it was put 
> out as a referendum, and passed with a 6 to 1 margin. However, what would 
> be expected when 22% of the population in Florida smokes?
>
> Look at it another way, Ian and Ben....
>
> I assume that one or both of you may be freelance \ solo guys. Would you 
> want there to be an election nationwide to determine the application 
> server that was used, exclusively, in the US? Well, if they put it to a 
> popular vote, I would assume that Microsoft would win, as even those who 
> don't really have an option knows that name. So, you have a fair 
> election, and now the government is telling you, Ian, Ben, Will, and 
> anyone else who suppports this legislation, that by law, you must now 
> ONLY code in .asp. And you should not loose money, because if others can 
> code in .asp, then you should be able to as well, right?
> 

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