I think the problem is that most people don't really read what Atkins said,
or do any research.


Atkins recommends that to lose weight a person do the following:


1.    Start a 2 week induction in which you are ingesting about 20 grams of
carbohydrates a day.  This will put you into Ketosis, which is fat burning.
You can figure out if you are in ketosis by using Ketosis strips available
at any pharmacy.


2. Each week after the induction period, add about 5 grams of carbohydrates
per day.  So week 3 would be 25 grams, Week 4 would be 30.  Keep checking
ketosis. If you drop out at a certain level, then you have found your
ketosis level.  Back up 5 grams below the level you stopped being in ketosis
and continue at that level.


3. Once you know your ketosis level, and you have lost all the weight your
body is going to lose (I say your body not your mind).  Then you may up your
carbs to the extent that you aren't going to gain weight anymore.  Once you
know your carb level, stick to it.


Don't worry about weight dropping, measure inches instead.


For instance, I went into Ketosis 3 days after starting the diet and dropped
6 pounds. (Mostly water), after that I didn't drop any weight for 3 months.
However my body lost some inches and I just kept at it.  After my initial
forays, I found that my carb level was about 40 grams a day.  I ended up
losing about 5 pounds a month.  After I hit 140, I couldn't lose anymore
weight to save my life.  My body had found its level.  (I wanted to lose
about 5 more).  I keep my carb level at about 50 now, I've gained some
weight back because of this, but am going to go down to 40 grams again to
get the weight off.

  _____  

From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:57 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Atkins

correct - but the amount of carb intake of most people I've met who are on
the Atkins diet, is seriously too low.  I don't know if that's because
they're not following his advice prperly or because his diet is insane.  I
have never had enough interest in his diet to explore it that closely.  I do
know the physiological effects of nutrients in our body as well as the
effects of screwing around with that too much, and I'm very fit and have no
need to try to lose weight, so I eat a normal healthy diet and don't
investigate the "ins and outs" of fad diets.  Like I said, from what I've
seen, it looks like a good way to lose weight quick but I wouldn't recommend
it long term... whether it's low or no carbs.  Carbs are good.  Protein is
good.  Alcohol is good.  Fat is good.  Basically most things are good - it's
a matter of balance.  I don't believe low carb is any better for your health
than high carb.

~Simon

Simon Horwith
CTO, Etrilogy Ltd.
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: BethF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 20 January 2004 17:32
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: Re: Atkins

  Low carb is not "NO carb".  There are carbs on most low carb diets, except
extreme things like "fat fasts" etc.  The body does not NEED processed
flours, or sugar.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Simon Horwith
    To: CF-Community
    Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:10 AM
    Subject: RE: Atkins

    you don't actually think 3 years is a long time do you?  I smoked for 18
    years - my lungs didn't collapse.  Must not be too bad for my lungs,
right?
    The question is what kind of problems might I have 20 or 30 years from
now.
    I know that's an exreme example however, if you stay on that diet for a
long
    time, done correctly OR incorrectly, you will be at a higher risk of
certain
    ailments.  That doesn't mean you definitely will suffer kidney failure
or
    anything else, but it puts you at a higher risk and it's not a healthy
long
    term diet.  Carbs are good for you.  Your body needs carbs.  So is fat,
    protein, etc. etc.  They should be balanced - no extremes necessary.
The
    extremes that Atkins dieters prescribe to are great for quick weight
loss.
    They are not a good life long eating habit.

    ~Simon

    Simon Horwith
    CTO, Etrilogy Ltd.
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      -----Original Message-----
      From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
      Sent: 20 January 2004 15:59
      To: CF-Community
      Subject: RE: Atkins

      I disagree about it being unhealthy.  Done correctly over time, it can
be
    a
      very healthy way of eating.

      Typical daily diet (remember i've been on it for about 3 years now).

      Morning
          Cup of Tea and Vitamins
          Fruit Shake or Eggs and Bacon or Low Carb hot Cereal. (sometimes
low
      carb pancakes, but rarely)

      Lunch
          Low Carb Pasta and Tuna or Chef Salad or Tuna Salad

      Snacks
          Low carb crackers and cheese
          Nuts
          Low Carb Bar

      Dinner
          Meat/Fish/Chicken
          Vegetable
          Salad

      Dessert
          Sugar Free Jello or Low Carb Cheesecake or Low Carb Ice Cream.

      I tend to drink 1 to 11/2 liters of water  a day.  I have some grains,
but
      they are mostly soy and flax.

        _____

      From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
      Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:49 AM
      To: CF-Community
      Subject: Re:Atkins

      My cardiac rehab program said there's no need to do something this
drastic
      or possibly harmful. Told me to cut down on simple carbs ("white"
flour,
      potatos, etc.), substitute whole grains. Have been getting neat stuff
from
      Trader Joe's like whole grain breads and pita, blueberry bran muffins,
    whole
      wheat pasta, Optimum cereal with whole wheat, soy, and flax,etc.
      Feel good, losing weight (with moderate exercise), keeps the lower
tummy
      working properly, good for cholesterol. Have discovered sweet
potatoes -
      yummy baked sweet potatoe "fries".

      -Ben

      >The diet works, but I haven't heard a nutritionist or normal doctor
yet
      that
      >says it's healthy.
      >
      >I recommend you check your ketone levels while on the program and
read
      about
      >the implications.
      >
      >-Kevin
      >
      >----- Original Message -----
      >From: "Adam Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
      >Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:22 AM
      >Subject: Atkins
      >
      >
      >> Anybody tried this diet.
      >>
      >> Starting weight 274lbs.
      >>
      >> I'm on day 2 and feeling weak (apparently this passes). Plus it
takes
    you
      >> off caffeine, so have got a caffeine headache.
      >>
      >> I'm also trying to eat healthily. I know they say you can eat as
much
      >bacon
      >> as you physically can get down your throat, but that can't be good.
Can
      >it?
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> Adam
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >>
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