I didn't make any blanket statement in regard to Flash and bandwidth. I
have stated over and over again that it depends on the application. My
statement was in reference to the blanket statement made earlier that
Flash saved bandwidth.

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
V: 415-577-8070
F: 415-341-8906
P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wille, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 6:39 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash agenda?
> 
> Negative.  A GOOD Flash developer is very mindful of bandwidth.
Perhaps
> you should check with the award winning Flash developer you hired.
> 
> I am not trying to say to anyone that Flash is the end-all, be-all of
web
> development.  Same with ColdFusion MX.  What I AM saying, though, is
that
> the proof is oh-so-simple: when only transmitting data rather than UI
> components + data, its obvious to see which will require less
bandwidth.
> Our Flash developers are very mindful of size/download time of their
flash
> components, regardless of size or complexity.  I think that both you
and I
> can agree that Flash, when appropriated correctly, CAN save bandwidth.
> The converse holds true as well.  I just don't appreciate the blanket
> implication that Flash ALWAYS is more bandwidth intensive.
> 
> Let's all remember that this is an open forum, we all have the place
to
> hold our respective opinions, and respect others as well.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --Paul
> 
> 
> Paul W. Wille           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> ---------------------------------------------------
> ISITE Design, Inc. -- Senior Programmer
> www.isitedesign.com
> 615 SW Broadway, Suite 200
> Portland, OR 97205
> 503.221.9860 x110
> 503.221.9865
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Sent: Thu 8/1/2002 4:36 PM
>       To: CF-Talk
>       Cc:
>       Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash
agenda?
> 
> 
> 
>       That is absolutely not true. A good Flash developer will create
a UI
>       that meets the business requirements of the application and
allows a
>       user to easily make use of it. That may or may not use more
> bandwidth
>       than an html based application with the same business
requirements.
> 
>       Matt Liotta
>       President & CEO
>       Montara Software, Inc.
>       http://www.montarasoftware.com/
>       V: 415-577-8070
>       F: 415-341-8906
>       P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: Wille, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:33 PM
>       > To: CF-Talk
>       > Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash
> agenda?
>       >
>       > And you are making assumptions as well here.  A *GOOD* Flash
> developer
>       > would design the Flash interface to be lightweight, preload
once
> (or
>       as
>       > minimal as possible), and minimize the size of his/her Flash
> movies.
>       No
>       > different is the argument that CFML is slow.  Those of us that
> know
>       CFML
>       > know that any poor developer can write bad CFML that will
> inherently
>       be
>       > slow.
>       >
>       > I fail to understand your point of view on this.  I think you
can
> see
>       > where I am coming from.
>       >
>       > Paul W. Wille           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       > ---------------------------------------------------
>       > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
>       > ---------------------------------------------------
>       > ISITE Design, Inc. -- Senior Programmer
>       > www.isitedesign.com
>       > 615 SW Broadway, Suite 200
>       > Portland, OR 97205
>       > 503.221.9860 x110
>       > 503.221.9865
>       >
>       >
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:26 PM
>       > To: CF-Talk
>       > Subject: RE: Does Macromedia have some current strong Flash
> agenda?
>       >
>       > > If your whole site is in Flash it loads once.  The Flash
movie
> is
>       > equal
>       > > to one or two rich HTML pages in size.  Perform more than
two
>       > functions
>       > > on your site and you're then passing less data than you
would
> via
>       > HTML.
>       > > That's the simplified version of how it works.  I doubt
Talkers
>       really
>       > > cares more about it than that, unless they're actually
building
> an
>       > app.
>       > > Then it's worth it to go into the specifics.
>       > >
>       > You are making assumptions. Flash gives you the ability to do
> things
>       you
>       > couldn't do before in html, which could required higher
bandwidth
> than
>       > the equivalent application using html. While the extra
bandwidth
> may
>       be
>       > worth it for a better experience, the extra bandwidth is still
> there.
>       > Flash applications do not inherently save bandwidth.
>       >
>       > -Matt
>       >
>       >
>       >
> 
> 
______________________________________________________________________
Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in 
ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq
Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/
Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists

Reply via email to