I have the same history as mentioned before - started with CF and wrote really bad code. Picked up FuseBox, got organized and now the code is actually understandable when I come back to it.
My question however is, I use FuseBox, but what do other people use? Is there another 'methodology' out there that is used/recommended? I have gotten stuck in FuseBox such any time I do a new app, I am always thinking FuseBox. What else is there (always open to new and better things)? -- Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: FBX3 AND CFMX Fregas said: "One thing that fusebox did that has nothing to do with any particular methodology is it taught me how to best structure a web application. It taught me more about custom tags, application & session variables, cfmodule, naming conventions, logical organization of modules, etc. I think that's one benefit with fusebox for new CFers is it forces them to use some features in CF and architecture that they might have avoided but aren't exclusive to fusebox by any means. I think that as long as you're using some kind of methodology and that you write clean modularized code, you are in good shape. You don't need fusebox to do this, but it helps if you haven't done this before." Ya I think that nails it....great for green CFers that don't get exposure to the (and don't flame me for saying this) "real" side of web application development as opposed to just something written in CF. Of course ultimately if you write your code properly then anyone should be able to understand it and it should be constructed so that updates and additions work with minimal hassle etc. etc. blah blah blah Wow...could we be heading towards the bright shiny light of FBers and regular CFers coming together in peace and understanding ;-) Great points today folks...much more productive than the usual FB vs.no FB mud slingin! Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------- Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com --------------------------------------------------------- Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fregas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:47 PM Subject: Re: FBX3 AND CFMX > Bryan, > > I started with just plain old vanilla cf. I hadn't done any web > programming, only a little VB5-6 and some basic and pascal years > earlier, so > I was a pretty green programmer. > > Well, as I mentioned we had done some terrible things to our CFML > code: many > levels of nested includes, copying and pasting of code such as queries > and display logic, etc. Once I heard about fusebox it took me a while > to get a > feel for it, but when I understood it, it helped tremendously. > > One thing that fusebox did that has nothing to do with any particular > methodology is it taught me how to best structure a web application. > It taught me more about custom tags, application & session variables, cfmodule, > naming conventions, logical organization of modules, etc. I think > that's one benefit with fusebox for new CFers is it forces them to use > some features in CF and architecture that they might have avoided but > aren't exclusive to fusebox by any means. > > I think that as long as you're using some kind of methodology and that > you write clean modularized code, you are in good shape. You don't > need fusebox > to do this, but it helps if you haven't done this before. > > Craig > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 3:39 PM > Subject: Re: FBX3 AND CFMX > > > > Couldn't have said it better myself Michael > > > > Do what works for you and your projects ;-) > > > > I still wouldn't mind hearing from the FBers out there.... > > > > Did you start CF with FB or pickup FB along the way? > > > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > > t. 250.920.8830 > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Macromedia Associate Partner > > www.macromedia.com > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > > Founder & Director > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 12:40 PM > > Subject: RE: FBX3 AND CFMX > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Actually, I totally understand where you're coming from. I wasn't trying > > > to imply that Fusebox is better, because for some people it > > > certainly is > > > not. And, you are right--A methodology is supposed to make > > > development smoother; or at least more standardized. If it doesn't > > > then you shouldn't use it. Given that Fusebox has been through so > > > many changes and because there are now several hybrids available > > > that address many of > > > the issues developers have faced in the past, I was simply > > > suggesting that you re-test the waters to determine if the > > > workaround issues you are concerned with still exist. > > > > > > In any case, you seem to be very comfortable and productive within your > > > own methodology; that is all that truly counts. :) > > > > > > Best regards > > > MW > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 3:21 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: FBX3 AND CFMX > > > > > > > > > Nope..ya missed my point....CFMX migration was just an example. > > > but now we're heading towards what's better ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. 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