lol.  I see you've gotten so worked up, you're just babbling now.

Ah well.  You could always try using PHP.  Or maybe ASP.  Heck, I hear ODBC
is still quite usable if you write code in C.

Sometimes I wish Sun never made those damned type II JDBC drivers.  Look
what they did to poor Joe.

Sorry Joe, don't mean to pick on ya.  But it's pretty funny :)


>There is NO point made here...unless u want you brief.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 12:59 AM
Subject: RE: The New Macromedia Website(ODBC)


> > Every complex software product I've ever seen has numerous bugs.
>
> You might want to take a look at some of the *.jar files.. and see
> how complex cfmx is...
>
> > No, I don't have any theories, just observations. If there are two ways
to
> > do something, and one works better than the other, I'll recommend the
one
> > that works.
>
> How do you OR i know...what works... unless you spent a few un-productive
> hours
> testing for what works? If i spend alot of time reseaching work-arounds to
> a vendors software...
> What value is that vendors software to me?.. where is ROI?
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 12:21 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: The New Macromedia Website(ODBC)
> >
> >
> > > I am NOT saying "ANY".. software is not perfect!. We are
> > > not talking about one specific issue... CFMX has had numerous
> > > issues... (Check Updater Docs... if you want to start counting
> > > them)
> >
> > Every complex software product I've ever seen has numerous bugs. I'm not
> > sure why you'd expect CFMX to be any different.
> >
> > > > My solution is to find the best way to solve a problem.
> > > > If JDBC-ODBC doesn't work well in CFMX, but "pure" JDBC
> > > > does, my solution may well be to recommend "pure" JDBC.
> > >
> > > Yes.. JDBC is a Solution/Alternative.. Not a fix to the
> > > software(cfmx) BUG.
> > >
> > > Example...CFMX had COM Issues...am not sure where it
> > > stands now... Any COM functionality can be replicated
> > > very well through a Java Bean.. So in your theory...
> > > Instead of MM fixing COM issues... you probably will
> > > ask all your developers to re-write every COM in a
> > > Java Bean?
> > >
> > > You have really have interesting theories.
> >
> > No, I don't have any theories, just observations. If there are two ways
to
> > do something, and one works better than the other, I'll recommend the
one
> > that works. If I need COM interoperability, I might not recommend a CFMX
> > solution. For that matter, I might not recommend CF 5 for that,
> > either. But
> > I'm not going to wait for perfection from any vendor.
> >
> > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> > http://www.figleaf.com/
> > voice: (202) 797-5496
> > fax: (202) 797-5444
> >
> >
> 
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