Well if cost is an issue I would suggest you take a look at BlueDragon. New Atlanta, the makers of BlueDragon not only offer a free version, but they also offer version that is similar in nature to CF 5 Enterprise for about $500.
-Matt On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 03:05 PM, Matt Blatchley wrote: > I would think one reason is the cost of the CFServer. Every person > I've > talked to that is outside of the CF development world tells me the > reason > they never got into ColdFusion or don't get into it is because of the > cost. > Although I really enjoy CF, PHP and MySQL are basically free. It's > very > difficult to convince someone to switch from paying nothing to having > to > dump thousand into just owning the license. Then having to pay for > the pipe > and servers on top of the CFlicense costs. Although we are all aware > of the > numerous ways to cut the costs like leasing the license, it still > deters > people for making the jump. Just my experience when I work with ASP, > PHP, > and JSP folks. The competition is too much for MM when the competitors > products are free, even with the capability issues that the others > don't > offer. > > My2cents > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:51 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us? > > > Sure, just take a look at MM's SEC filings. They detail what product > lines produced what revenues. Generally speaking, the documents lump > all server-side software sales together, so one could make the argument > that it is JRun that is actually shrinking and CF. However, having > participated in the MM earnings conference calls, they tend to break > down the sales figures better orally. > > For example, from their 10-K filling... > > Our Software Tools products had net revenues of $270.1 million in > fiscal year 2003, as compared to $242.5 million in fiscal year 2002. > This increase was primarily due to the launch of new Software Tools > products and new versions of existing Software Tools products, > including our MX family of products and Macromedia Contribute. > Macromedia Studio MX, which was launched in the first quarter of fiscal > year 2003, represented approximately 31% of our net revenues in the > current fiscal year. While sales of Macromedia Studio MX did result in > a decrease in sales of our stand-alone products that are included in > our Studio MX bundle, aggregate sales from all of our MX products > increased by 13% in fiscal year 2003 as compared to fiscal year 2002. > This increase was partially offset by a decline in net revenues from > our Server Software products, primarily Macromedia ColdFusion MX. > Server Software product revenues decreased to $53.0 million in fiscal > year 2003, as compared to $60.1 million in fiscal year 2002. This > decrease was primarily due to continued pricing pressures resulting > from a very competitive market environment, partially offset by > releases of new versions of existing products during the current fiscal > year. > > -Matt > > On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 02:38 PM, Tyler Silcox wrote: > >> Matt wrote: The market for ASP and PHP is growing, while the CF market >> is >> shrinking. >> >> Do you have any evidence of this, or is it a personal >> observation/opinion? >> (I'm not challenging you, I just have a professional curiosity...) >> >> Tyler >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:48 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Re: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us? >> >>> Granted, I pretty much stopped using DW when MX rolled out, but lots >>> of people love it. You can't expect MM to stop schmoozing it's >>> pre-existing customer base and ONLY focus on CF. Seriously now, you >>> don't want all those ASP and PHP folks spending their money somewhere >>> else - the beauty of it is that all of those people who buy DW and >>> use >>> it to code PHP and ASP are contributing to the future of MM and CF >>> with their funds. >>> >> I disagree with the above statement. The market for ASP and PHP is >> growing, >> while the CF market is shrinking. Certainly, there is reason right now >> for >> Macromedia to support ASP, PHP, and CF, but at what point does the >> size of >> each respective market force MM to focus DW on only the largest >> markets, >> namely ASP and PHP? >> >> Matt Liotta >> President & CEO >> Montara Software, Inc. >> http://www.MontaraSoftware.com >> (888) 408-0900 x901 >> >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
