What a load of rubbish... Loads are based on how you design your application, make sure you run plenty of load tests and the killer is make sure you have the infastructure first. If your infastructure is wrong or not enough, then the application will fail under load it is as simple as that.
As for .Net being supperior, yeah right there is no one language that is superior in load balancing. But if you are going down this route then its CF Enterprise, CF Standard can be used but it will be limited and maybe thats where the article is comming from. CF8, will have intergartion as far as being able to leverage of objects. So you can write packages in .Net and you can use them in CF8. Where BD excels some more is that you can intergrate asp and cf in the same page. But that might change, CF8 thanks to Sean Corfield can also leverage of PHP and Ruby in the same coldfusion page. Now the thing that is also forgotten, is that java is an enterprise solution and is in my opinion more of an enterprise solution that .Net is. And Coldfusion has the ability via the Application server to run both, with the release of CF8 will give us the ability to full jBoss support. I think you are asking the right questions, and at least willing to listen to responses. So having said that, I doubt you are going to have any problems with CF Enterprise, with the right infastructure and have done your load tests. Also read up on CF8, some of the best features are threads with cfthread. Ever since CF was rewritten in Java it has been more thread based, but it did lack the ability to instantiate a thread until cf8. Although gateway integration was a good way of getting around this. So my reccomendtion regardless software. 1) make sure it is an enterprise solution 2) What tools do you see yourself using, do you see more .Net or Java as integrate solutions. 3) Do you have the bandwidht to support these users. 4) Do you have the hardware to support these users 5) Load test, load test, load test 6) refactor any code that fails a load test. 7) deploy 8) Increase hardware infastructure when loads get higher. On 6/10/07, m g <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks... > > 1/ Will CF8 have equal or better integration with .NET compared to > Bluedragon.Net? > > 2/ My main reason for consider Bluedragon.NET over CFMX is not due to > Flash Remoting but rather to my main concern of .NET touted as being far > superior in handling significant loads and simultaneous requests than > CFMX... the reason being that if my Flash Remoting app becomes very popular > with several thousand people using at the same time it sounds like BD.NETwith > its integration with .NET framework will be far more robust and able to > handle the loads. > > Ignoring costs for the time being, I personally don't care which > application server I use, I just wan't to know that my app is using the most > robust tools and that it won't slow down or crash under very heavy load. I > do not want to start a CF vs ASP.NET war, but my concern for using CFMX > was sparked by another thread on this forum where Tim Uzzanti who is an > experienced employee of a large webhost who wrote.. > > --------------------------- > Tim Uzzanti: ( > http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-talk/thread.cfm/threadid:37076#187251 > ) > "If you believe CF can handle the same traffic loads that .NET can handle, > then you are completely confused on the technologies and their > infrastructure. I have no idea if 75% of fortune 100% companies use CF, I > would love to see some documentation for that, but the Fortune 100 companies > ARE NOT the Top 100 sites on the Internet either! > > Asking someone who maintains and manages 10,000 hosted applications on > Cold Fusion and someone who manages thousands of .NET applications would > probably give you a pretty good opinion of what they see? Is it in my BEST > interest to tell a customer not to use CF, or is it in my best interest to > suggest what might be the best technologies from my experiences on their > requirements? > > Someone mentioned ediet.com which has a traffic ranking of around 280,000 > and in comparison CrystalTech is around 23,000. Microsoft.com which is in > the top 10 is using ASP.NET and Dell.COM which is in the top 100 is also > using ASP.NET > > Regarding the back end of Cold Fusion: CFMX is much better than CF5 but > still has many limitations and quirks that we have see and deal with every > day. I am not saying that CF doesn't have the ability to grow with larger > sites because it has features like the ability to cluster machines and the > classes are compiled etc. What I am saying is, if you would like to build an > application that can last longer on certain hardware or run more optimally, > CF is not the way to go! Cold Fusion MX > out of the box has a setting to support no more than 10 simultaneous > requests at one time. > Macromedia suggestions that you never exceed 40 and this isn't optimal for > a large scale sites. There are other settings and issues from a server > administration standpoint that hinder CFMX from out performing .NET > > There are other factors that one needs to think about when writing an > application. Think about the ability to use Threads in .NET. Depending on > your application, sitting and processing 10 requests back to back may take 5 > minutes but if you had the ability to run the 10 tasks concurrently you may > be able to respond back to the customer in 30 seconds. You have to realize, > .NET isn't just a web based language, it is a Development language for > desktop and server applications as well." > --------------------------- > > Therefore if CF8 has the same or better integration with .NET as BD.NETthen > maybe worthwhile to wait till CF8 is released? > > any opinions... > > -- > > > > Senior Coldfusion Developer > Aegeon Pty. Ltd. > www.aegeon.com.au > Phone: +613 8676 4223 > Mobile: 0404 998 273 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Deploy Web Applications Quickly across the enterprise with ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2 Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJU Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:280557 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
