A good "token" for me would be a long-term solution to problems such as
"upgrades" (which are almost always buggy to a degree...) or anytime something
happens to primary systems.

I would like to see AHP implement some sort of failover setup where they can
upgrade online production servers, but also have a duplicate VPS, separate from
those being upgraded, that can be brought online very quickly in case of a 
problem
such as we've experienced.

Like I've said before, I'd be willing to pay more to get the failover setup, and
being willing to implement it without paying for a second full VPS would be a 
good
starting point.

I'm going to be talking to Greg about this when the dust settles.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Rick

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:07 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: The unofficial ahphosting status thread
> 
> @Terry: Yes, everything is working on my end, including the CP. As Jeff
> noticed, it's a tad bit faster too. You're probably on the same box as Mary
> Jo, where as I recall, Greg said it was 'toast'- but I'm just guessing. So
> like everyone, I am just waiting the official word of conclusion.
> 
> I share my sentiments with Charlie. I knew getting into AHP that it was a
> just micro-operation, so I wont claim ignorance on the known risk on such
> type of small biz even at the time I engaged with Greg's company.
> 
> Collectively, if we monetize the loss of time, productivity, and revenue
> wasted during this incident, it would total up to be quite a significant
> amount. We all know that Greg has already lost (and probably will loose
> more) customers because of this. And his customers including myself, has
> lost customers as well. On day 1, I was demo-ing my sites to a potential
> client, but to my embarrassment, none worked. I certainly hope (expect?)
> that Parallels/SWS admit to some accountability/responsibility to this. And
> with such responsibility, comes some sort of gesture to repair
> relationships: monetary or otherwise to AHP, which then gets passed on to
> AHP customers.  No, I am not implying having lawyers with fangs and suckers
> getting involved. Just a 'gesture', a mere token.
> 
> My .02.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:29 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: The unofficial ahphosting status thread
> >
> > btw, just thought i'd throw out an "i'm not leaving".  i'm relatively
> > new to AHP and i'll take it on faith for now that this outage is the
> > exception rather than the rule.  I'm choosing to look at it as, "hey,
> > my host was taking the initiative to upgrade the software that i get
> > to use... without me having to ask, and without any increase in
> > price."
> >
> > it obviously didn't go well, but you can't fault the intentions.  i'm
> > not debating the fact that 8 days is a long time to be encountering
> > issues... but there's only so much you can do when you're one guy.  in
> > different situations, being with a small company has its advantages
> > (direct access to the person you need to talk to at almost any time
> > day or night, for example), so i'm not going to complain (too much)
> > about it when it doesn't happen to work out in my favor.
> >
> > just my $0.02, fwiw.
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Charlie Griefer
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > i emailed greg yesterday just to see if everything was "done" (as in,
> > >  "we expect everything should be working, so please report any issues"
> > >  versus "we are not done, so you may still encounter intermittent
> > >  issues").
> > >
> > >  he did mention that he'd been doing his best to keep the support page
> > >  of the site up to date, and planned for another update as soon as
> > >  today.  i hadn't even thought to look there thru all of this :\
> > >
> > >  http://ahphosting.net/support/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Terry Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >  > It's getting strangely quiet...
> > >  >  Has everyone left ahp or are things working?
> > >  >
> > >  >  I remain the same with http operational and ftp, vcp, and mail down.
> > >  >  I just called ahp and Greg's mailbox is full, so at this point, I
> > have absolutely no idea what the status of this mess is.
> > >  >  It's hard to make a stay or go decision without any info, so it
> > appears, at this point, that the decision is getting made for me.
> > >  >  There are other Virtuozzo CF hosting companies out there, but I sure
> > can't find any info that any of them are having the trouble that we are
> > having. I'd really hate to switch hosts and run into the same darned
> > problem somewhere else though.
> > >  >  Guess I'll flip a coin...
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >  > Since there are quite a few concerned ahphosting customers here, I
> > >  >  > thought I'd start this thread instead of using the lengthy "Holy
> > >  >  > Grail" thread.
> > >  >  >
> > >  >  > My current status on a VPS is:
> > >  >  > http up about 80% since Sunday.
> > >  >  > email down 100%.
> > >  >  > RDC comes and goes. Currently down.
> > >  >  > FTP down 100%.
> > >  >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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