Honestly if these people are living under their cubicle desk then I have no 
clue how to get their attention.  It’s not as if no one is talking about 
ColdFusion security and certainly not as if the main stream news media is 
reporting security breaches. If someone chooses to stay uninformed there isn’t 
much anyone can do to wake them up.


Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer/
Systems Administrator
CF Webtools
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On Mar 27, 2014, at 9:46 PM, Andrew Scott <andr...@andyscott.id.au> wrote:

> 
> Ray,
> 
> Probably not... Other people should also remember that not everyone spends
> time online in groups, they are 9 to 5 developers who have a life. These
> are the people who set these things up, these are the people that aren't
> being reached. Can more be done, don't think so.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrew Scott
> WebSite: http://www.andyscott.id.au/
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> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Raymond Camden 
> <raymondcam...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Playing attention to the requirement to inform these people about the
>>> need for extra lock down early in the process would be more effective
>>> in solving the problem than Adobe employees and evangelists ignoring
>>> the fact that these people exist and doing nothing more than yelling
>>> 
>> 
>> Um... who exactly is ignoring these people? You may argue the CF team
>> should do *more*, but they are not *ignoring* anyone. The Secure Profile
>> was a *big* step to try to help lock things down out of the box. Hiring
>> Pete to write a guide, and hosting it, on *additional* steps was a good too
>> imo.
>> 
>> Can even more be done - maybe so. I'd like the installer to point to the
>> lock down guide so folks know it exist.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Rah, Rah, Adobe as if the company had no place in the solution.
>> 
>> 
>> As if Adobe hasn't at least made an effort - oh wait - they did.
>> 
>> Users must take some responsibility too, Maureen. You can't put it all on
>> Adobe's shoulders here. If you let your nephew install a server and don't
>> bother to double check his work, that is *your* fault, no one else.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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