I don;t think anyone has said that the Cf installer should magically secure
their applications, this is a whole different issue and no blame can be
laid at Adobe's feet or the installer for poorly written code.


On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Dave Watts <dwa...@figleaf.com> wrote:

>
> > > > I also once had a client who did this, they were Linux heads who
> thought
> > > > that hiding the "sucky insecure windows/cf server" behind a linux
> server
> > > > and doing a reverse proxy would make it secure.
> > >
> > > There is no such thing as "make it secure", of course. But it is more
> > > secure. It solves one specific security problem - preventing
> > > executable code from being directly accessed from an untrusted
> > > network.
> > >
> > > > But of course it didn't as everything still works the same way, the
> SQL
> > > > injections still got through, the insecure file upload forms still
> > > > allowed
> > > > files to be uploaded, which could then be executed as they had
> cfexecute
> > > > and cfregistry enabled.
> > >
> > > So what you're saying is that, despite the fact that the environment
> > > was (more) secure by default, developers accidentally wrote
> > > exploitable code?
> > >
> > > I have the feeling there's some lesson to be drawn from this. I wonder
> > > what it is?
> >
> > A locked door is useless if you leave the windows open.
>
> I think we might be in agreement! But maybe for different reasons.
>
> Setting up application servers to be secure is hard. Ensuring that
> application code doesn't contain vulnerabilities is hard. And you're
> not going to be able to solve security problems with an installer.
> People need to know what they're doing. They need to have a base level
> of competence at their jobs. No installer in the world is going to
> idiot-proof web applications.
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> 1-202-527-9569
> http://www.figleaf.com/
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>
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