In all seriousness this time - it can be considered bad form to give a reference to someone you haven't asked first.
Could be considered worse form to give them as a reference, even after they have said no to you. - Considering they said that they had already said that they wouldn't give you a reference (or anyone?), are you all that surprised that it turned out badly? I always have asked references if they mind first, and I usually shoot off an email to them if I've got a job interview, just so they know they may recieve a phone call. IMHO anyways. Mark > Fuzion - CFAussie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As far as I am aware, if someone has not concented to having > themselves > as a referee and have not given you a reference, they can say > whatever > they want about you. > > Darryl > > -----Original Message----- > From: Taco Fleur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Posted At: Tuesday, 11 February 2003 9:02 AM > Posted To: CFAussie > Conversation: [cfaussie] Re: Re: [OT] Question: Work Related > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Re: [OT] Question: Work Related > > > I wish it was so, actually you are partially right, when I first > asked > for a reference I was told exactly what you just said "They don't > give > out references" however company B insisted on a reference, so I gave > them a contact number. and this contact gave a reference after all, > although it was a bad one.. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Dickinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CFAussie Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:25 AM > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Re: [OT] Question: Work Related > > > > Here's a point which I'm surprised no-one has mentioned yet. > > > > Basically, very few employer actually take note of references. > > > > These days, more and more companies shy away from giving > references. > > One of my previous employers, when asked for a reference, would say > > > only that the person worked for them, for what period, and in what > > capacity. They were terrified of the legal consequences of doing > > otherwise. > > > > Quite a few employers realize this, and don't even ask for refs. > > > > Other employers, or even recruiters, really prefer to trust their > gut > > reaction to you during the interview, and are either prepared to > > disregard what anyone else may say/think. In my five years hanging > > around the IT Scene here in Sydney, I've been astonished how > prevalent > > > this attitude is. > > > > And even when employers/recruiters ask for references, you'd be > > astonished how rarely they actually go to the trouble of checking > > them. I used to have a short list of people, who were also trusted > > friends (very helpful > > !) whose names I regularly gave out as referees. Every now and > then, > I'd > > ask who or how many people contacted them. The answer was usually > > .......... you guessed it ....... no-one. > > > > If there is a moral to this ramble, it is ....... don't stress > about > > references. They are overrated as either a positive or a negative > > concern. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To > > > unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/ > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/ > > --- > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/ -- ICQ: 3094740 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/
