Mark, I have actually hired a few (5 in total).
Cheers Steve ---------------------------------------------- steve baty senior analyst :: strategy & technology red square :: internet design & development www.redsquare.com <ph>+612 8596 4030 <fax>+612 8596 4001 <mob>+61 417 061 292 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark M Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2003 16:37 To: CFAussie Mailing List Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Re: [OT] Question: Work Related Stupid question - Have you actually HIRED anyone in this 6 month process? ... 'cause if you rejected people on the basis of interview ... well... kinda proves nothing either way... Mark > Steve Baty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Taco, > > One other thing I might mention on the question of references. I have > spent the past 6 months (and counting) actively interviewing > candidates > for a number of positions at Red Square. I am yet to check a > reference. > > I hope that helps. > > Steve > > ---------------------------------------------- > steve baty > senior analyst :: strategy & technology > red square :: internet design & development > www.redsquare.com > <ph>+612 8596 4030 > <fax>+612 8596 4001 > <mob>+61 417 061 292 > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Taco > Fleur > Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2003 15:06 > To: CFAussie Mailing List > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Re: [OT] Question: Work Related > > There you go! > > PS. this seems to be a hot topic!!! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Baty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CFAussie Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 2:00 PM > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Re: [OT] Question: Work Related > > > > Andrew, > > > > As an employer I'd be more inclined to ask why it is that you can't > > substantiate the claims made in your resume. At the end of the day > a > > resume is simply that: a series of claims about your training, > skills > > and experience. If you can't substantiate those claims with > something > as > > simple as a reference then I would have a hard time signing you up. > > > > One thing to consider here is that it is much harder for a company > to > > fire someone than it is to not hire them in the first place. Why > would > I > > risk the rigmarole of bringing you on board and _then_ finding out > you > > weren't as good as you claimed? > > > > References are a convenient way of verifying past experience in the > > event that the potential employee hasn't come across as all they > say. > As > > an employer, if you have doubts in your mind you have three > options: > > i) Hire them anyway and see what happens; > > ii) Don't hire them just in case they're really not good; > > iii) Check their references and find out what others have to say > about > > them. > > > > Personally, I wouldn't take option 1, and in the absence of any > > references I'd assume the worst and not hire the person. > > > > My 2c. > > > > Steve > > > > ---------------------------------------------- > > steve baty > > senior analyst :: strategy & technology > > red square :: internet design & development > > www.redsquare.com > > <ph>+612 8596 4030 > > <fax>+612 8596 4001 > > <mob>+61 417 061 292 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Andrew > > Dickinson > > Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2003 14:30 > > To: CFAussie Mailing List > > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Re: [OT] Question: Work Related > > > > Move on. Apply for more positions at other companies. The more you > do > > it, > > the more you'll find that references, including bad references, are > not > > taken much notice of by a surprisingly large number of potential > > employers. > > > > If they really really push you hard for a reference which you can't > or > > aren't willing to provide, I'd be asking why, and if you really > want > to > > deal with such an inconsiderate recruiter/employer. > > > > Two more of my cents worth :) > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/ > > > > > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/ > > > > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/ > > > --- > You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/ -- ICQ: 3094740 [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to cfaussie as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MX Downunder AsiaPac DevCon - http://mxdu.com/
