Barry,

I think it depends on what you intend to build.

I think a lot of people are looking at using Flex to build applications that
have to be coupled to fairly complex backend systems.  The right way to
access these systems would require a maintainable framework to access the
business logic.  That's a significant part of what Flex is trying to
achieve, helping people couple a client side application with an existing
backend system, and doing this in a maintainable way that encourages reuse
and supports familar design patterns.

I reckon trying to acheive that goal without Flex is going to take
significantly more effort than a $12,000 investment.

just some thoughts ...

cheers
Mark


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From: "Barry Beattie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CFAussie Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 11:45 AM
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Cold Fusion vs ASP



How much is that "ease" worth to you - $12,000 for the licence?

yeah, I also think it's a damn shame but I can't see MM changing it's
pricing strategy. There's been a hell of a lot of negative sentiment
about the $$$ already.

I was keen as but I'm not even bothering to learn it because I can't see
enough market share to justify the training hours.

>> is Macromedia aware of the opportunity to separately sell (at more
reasonable price) the MXML compiler as a new tool?

I'm sure they're very aware. it'd kill proper FLEX sales left and
center.

perhaps there will be some *worthwhile* FLEX functionality in
blackstone? then it'd really piss all over ASP.NET (to bring it back to
the original thread)

just my $0.02 worth
barry.b






-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Velevitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 4 May 2004 11:37 AM
To: CFAussie Mailing List
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Cold Fusion vs ASP

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004 10:06:57 -0700, Sean A Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Macromedia made it pretty clear from day one that Flex was aimed at
> enterprise application developer teams (in particular, Java developer

That's a fine strategy for developing business in a new market. But the
problem is, Macromedia has reinvented Flash, basically making more
attractive for existing developers who currently use Macromedia tools.
Macromedia has given us another, easier and similar, way to create swf
files. And at this stage of the game, all I want is the MXML compiler to

generate swfs instead of using the Flash IDE.

I appreciate that Flex allows you to dynamically generate swf files, and
I
can imagine the impact that'll have on what you can do with an RIA. But
I
need to statically generate swf files and MXML makes that whole process
easier.


Chris

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