On Tue, 2018-01-23 at 15:14 +0000, Greg Titus wrote:
> Russel, can you say more about why?  Just a few sentences regarding
> the things you wanted that Slack didn’t have or do, and what your use
> model is for Gitter?
> 
> thanks listeningly,
> greg

Gitter is effectively an IRC replacement which allows for a list of
channels you are interested in and allows you to switch quickly and
easily between them. I use it for various channels, e.g. gtk-rs,
SDKMAN!, Ceylon programming language discussions. It is exactly IRC
with a nice browser-based interfaces.

Slack was (last time I used it) about creating walled communities with
no notion of being a member of many – except that you could have lots
of tabs and lots of logins. It's more about closed forum than open
discussion. The focus was on communications between members of a
project and handling management of the evolution of the project. I am
sure it serves a good purpose for distributed teams, just not for the
dipping in and out to ask and answer questions that IRC (and Gitter)
are good for.

I understand Discourse allows for a forum interface to what can be used
as email lists. 

The relationship between forums, email lists, IRC style systems seems
trivial in many ways, but it is subtly important in so many ways. It is
all about the workflows of the users. The whole "forum vs. email list"
is a big example of this. Some people like to go to a community and
reside in it, some people like the messages to come to their collator
(email client usually) so as to provide an event stream which they can
then act on.

I am in the email/RSS collator UI camp. I rarely remember to go to the
GtkD forum, it has no email sub-system and no RSS/Atom feed. The Gradle
forum allows for email events so that you can go to the forum for an
interesting discussion. The Rust forum has an RSS feed which I look at
via Newblur. Others have a different workflow model, that works for
them but not for me. Going to a closed forum is not interesting as I am
associated with so many, I need the event stream. 

Sadly Gitter doesn't provide an event stream or RSS feed, but I can
have one tab open and it monitors all the channels.
 
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