I'm sorry again, please ignore this message:

> PS. To reply these messages, is it better for me to reply to some specific
person + [email protected] ?

# I was afraid that I was posting the same message redundantly, so I will
just
use chapel-users@...

# One reason I prefer web-based services rather than mailing lists is
that I edit posts later (e.g. fix typos/unclear expressions or add
more information).

2018-01-24 2:41 GMT+09:00 Takeshi Yamamoto <[email protected]>:

> I have searched more for the example case of Gitter,
> and here is some (very limited) list found at the moment:
>
> https://gitter.im/rust-lang/rust
> https://gitter.im/scala/scala
> https://gitter.im/JetBrains/kotlin
> https://gitter.im/nim-lang/Nim
> https://gitter.im/JuliaLang/julia    # this has links to SO questions also
>
> As for chat.stackexchange.com, there seems to be some requirement
> for posting comments ("Only members of The Stack Exchange
> Network with at least * 20* reputation may talk here"), which might be not
> preferable (?) (though it is probably designed so to avoid spam).
>
> https://chat.stackexchange.com/faq
>
> PS. To reply these messages, is it better for me to reply to some specific
> person + [email protected] ?
>
> 2018-01-23 10:00 GMT+09:00 Brad Chamberlain <[email protected]>:
>
>>
>> Hi guys --
>>
>> We've been (slowly) having discussions that are _somewhat_ similar to
>> this within the team at Cray, motivated in part by a desire to move away
>> from SourceForge mailing lists (and in part for want of something better).
>> You can see some indications of this discussion (and chime in on it for
>> aspects related to mailing list replacements) here:
>>
>>         https://github.com/chapel-lang/chapel/issues/6440
>>
>> You're also welcome to open an issue with a more specific IRC replacement
>> theme (e.g., "create a stateful alternative to IRC").  At a high level I'll
>> say that I'm open to this, though also nervous about switching technologies
>> too frequently (and/or continually growing the number of forums we need to
>> monitor).
>>
>>
>> I would also be happy to utilize such a "3rd" forum if available
>>> for asking questions & topics that do not fit very well with
>>> StackOverflow and Github issue (e.g., asking practical experience,
>>> code design, performance tips, etc..).
>>>
>>
>> I think, today, the IRC channels and Chapel mailing lists are that third
>> (and fourth) forum, for better or worse.
>>
>>
>> Though I have no experience of Gitter/Slack/IRC,
>>> one forum I felt convenient is Discourse because it
>>> provides various features including bookmarking.
>>> https://www.discourse.org/
>>>
>>
>> We looked into Discourse a bit (and haven't ruled it out yet).  I'd say
>> the two biggest negatives are a likely increase in hosting cost for our
>> website and the learning curve/effort to establish it (set it up and
>> organize it).  There'd also be some learning curve to utilizing it (for
>> those of us who haven't), though I think this is less significant.
>>
>>
>> I'm not very familiar with Gitter (i.e., we didn't explore it as a
>> mailing list alternative).  Would it be accurate to say that, like a
>> chatroom, it is a single logical stream of chats (i.e., no thread hierarchy
>> or tree-based structure?).  I.e., it'd be much more of an IRC replacement /
>> addition than a mailing list replacement?  Does it story history, permit
>> tagging users and notifications to them when they come back online?
>>
>> If so, chat.stackexchange.com seems to provide a similar service (IRC
>> with history, persistence, and notifications even when you're offline), and
>> has the benefit of being integrated with StackOverflow.  (I also happen to
>> be familiar with it, so can imagine what using it is like better than
>> Gitter... not that I'm ruling it out, just curious for a comparison between
>> the two).
>>
>> I'm similarly unfamiliar with Slack, though I have a positive impression
>> of it.  That said, I don't have a sense of where it falls in this space and
>> how it would be as an IRC and/or mailing list replacement.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Brad
>>
>>
>
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