Jeff Fitzwater wrote:
Is there any issues with running UDLD with TX to Fiber converters at each end of a gig cisco to cisco link? We are just over the distance budget with the 10KM optics.

6500 TX port--- to fiber converter--- 18KM fiber--- to converter--- back to TX port on 3750.

Should work fine. I'm doing the same thing over several back to back media converters with 80k optics. I'd love to replace the MCs with something better but otherwise UDLD works fine over them.

We are looking at the converters because the Cisco ZX optics are very expensive and the converters with 30KM optics are much cheaper than the 60 KM ZX optics.

Agreed. This is on my list of major Cisco gripes. 10km is laughable in the SP world. Where are the 20k and 40k optics? Where are the 80k and 110k optics? Cabletron had 110k optics a decade ago.

The single-strand Cisco GigE optic is limited to 10km too. Single-strand optics are critical in the SP world. Not everyone has excess bundles of dark fiber to play with to turn up a simple GigE link. I understand that Cisco wouldn't sell a lot of these since most of their business is enterprise. I get that. I would suggest that they pick a well-known and reliable SFP manufacturer like Champion and support their optics. Fill in the void with someone else's gear if you don't think the cost would justify the benefits of doing it yourself. There are other ways to do things besides doing it all in-house.

Another major Cisco SFP gripe I have is that some BUs require optics that no other BU supports which makes common sparing across your product lines impossible. The ONSs require specific optics. The GLC- and SFP- that the switches and routers support don't work in ONS's LCs like the XPonder. We've found that the SFP- optics aren't supported in some switches with older code. DOM isn't universally supported so why pay for thee DOM optic when your switch or linecard doesn't support it. DWDM SFP support was added to some switches in the later 12.2(40+)SE releases such as 12.2(46)SE for the ME3750. However it wasn't added to all switches such as the 3560, 3750, or 2960 but it was added to the 3560/3750 E series. The beefy 4948s and monster 4900Ms are still out in the cold on DWDM support for SFPs too (I know that the 10G X2 optic supports DWDM).

It seems to me that there should be a standards body within Cisco that should mandate certain minimum requirements of all product lines. If and when there is the ability for BUs and product lines to share common and trivial products like SFPs then they should require it. It would save them R&D and QA money if nothing else.

Back to your question though, yes UDLD should work fine over MCs.

Justin

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